Upcoming Feature and Change Feedback Center

Hey folks. There's a small change that's currently planned for our February release and we'd like to get your feedback.

Up until now, wrecks (other than those belonging to Ship Maintenance Array and X-Large Ship Maintenance Array starbase structures) have all had a uniform 500 hull hitpoints. This makes them very easy to destroy, with no difference between destroying a shuttle wreck and a titan wreck.

We've seen a few requests here and there to tweak this mechanic from players, and recently Endie from the CSM has brought the issue up with us and championed it. We've got a set of changes ready for the February release that should help bring wreck hitpoints into a better state.


The current planned numbers are:

Frigate, Rookie Ship, Shuttle, Small NPC: 700 hp
Destroyer: 1000 hp
Cruiser, Mining Barge, Medium NPC, Generic NPC: 1500 hp
Battlecruiser, Industrial: 2500 hp
Battleship, Large NPC, Officer NPC: 3500 hp
Carrier, Dread, Rorqual, Orca, Freighter: 15000 hp
Supercarrier, NPC Supercarrier: 25000 hp
Titan: 30000 hp

The CSM feedback we've received so far has been positive, and we'd like to hear what you all think.
Thanks!

Endie, noble protector of wrecks .... well some of them at least.

Protect the wrecks!

I like this change.

I take it this will be without any resists? Or will wrecks even get an inherited resist profile from their former ship?

Without resists this seems about right, considering the dps generally required to take down a ship of that size.
it should still take a second or 2-3 to destroy the wreck, and have the benefit of countering accidental wreck (and loot) destruction.

And looking at the amount of wrecks a stealth bomber could still one-shot the changes would not be that bad :)

Scratching my head to understand what problem this change will fix. Or is it merely 'cosmetic'?

Will probably help save wrecks from smartbombs in large fleets. Or pipe bombing. Like if you pipe bomb a fleet of ABC's, you won't immediately nuke your loot when you forget to cycle a couple SB. Maybe, least thats kind of how i view it.

Smartbombs do not kill wrecks now, so unless they change that mechanic first, this will not affect that area. If you watch the videos of R&K smartbombing, the wrecks were not destroyed and formed a nice little ball.

Well this is nice.

Hehe, wreck popping was one of the few effective ways of interrupting work of large freighter ganker groups in hisec (primarily goons and thier code alts), so it is nice to see that CSM is working for the null block interests as per usual.

Now, I have nothing against this proposal but there is a major caveat - if you're gonna do this please fix the ability to loot other people's cargo while avoiding getting suspect flagged for it.

What I'm referring to is the fact that one can get next to a yellow wreck with a ship with fleet hanger (e.g. Deep space transport or an Orca) and a character in a noob ship, use the character in the noob ship to transfer cargo to DST and only the noob ship guy will get suspect flagged while DST will merrily warp away with stolen goods.

Please fix this so that Fleet hanger ship can't receive such (illegal) loot or can do it but gets flagged in the process (obviously, make it so that it is not prone to abuse). Do that, and I don't think many will care about EHP of the wrecks.

I approve of this!

Could be a little bit higher imo.