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Why has CCP not told how many Aurum to buy an injector? They know no matter where it's priced, there will be even more upset. Pulling out my trusty cards and ball, let me take a guesstimate on the amount.

Enuf that an Aurum package will Always be just short of one more, and will cost more than the lowest priced package! Considering a month of account time with USD plus any currency exchange fee is in the neighborhood of just a smidge under $20, figuring 2-3 (and short an additional!) injectors will be one foldable Jackson. ($20 for those not looking at a handy 'Merican Greenback)

This goes beyond double dipping on CCP's side of the transactions, but should we be shocked? NO! Why? They're bound and determined that Valkyrie is the future of their gaming company, and be dammed the time invested here in Eve, the running off of some vets in the name of short term gains from fickle R00kies, and those that for various reasons will not be making the jump to a VR headset.

Plex sales out the wazoo.
Aurum package discounts.
SKINs from Rens to Jita to Dod-Mart.
Now injectors.

The new and improved CCP policy to it's customer base playing Eve. Take them for all the cash they're willing to fork over, ignore any long term disasters this might cause. Promises? Policy? Out the window, they've got higher priorities than fixing bugs, keeping their word, or giving a tinker's damn about Customers that have supported them this far.

After all, we're replaceable with the next batch of suckers with CC numbers in-hand.

Would a company willingly and purposefully suicide gank themselves for the KM brag rights, only to close up shop due to budget crisis? Guess in the next 1-3 years we'll all find out the answer. I suggest polishing up those resumes. I also suggest not applying for employment at Paradox Games. They might remember you......

Paradox has several in their higher up ranks that were booted during the World of Darkness MMO shuttering by CCP. Probably not the place former CCP employees need to go when it's job headhunting time. I'm gleefully awaiting what they'll cook up with any of the White Wolf IP lines! VR might be a temporary bubble in gaming experiences, as the Virtual (Headache) Boy demonstrated from Nintendo. Or the choice of those with more money than they know what to spend it on.

CCP has a proven track record of foolish decisions, as older articles clearly demonstrate. My fingers are crossed that they don't cook the Golden Goose which is Eve Online for bets on 'maybes' 'possibles' and 'sudden giant uptick in new customers by tossing out the bitter vets'.

SP trading in this manner, using injectors bought with Aurum from the New Eden Store is a patented Bad Idea. There's a character bazaar if someone's in that big a hurry. This is the open door to Gold Ammo microtransaction sales that CCP as a company swore would not happen on their watch.

No open door in the Captain's Quarters, but a welcome mat in place for pay to win/fast track. Disheartening.

>Jeven

I very rarely post on the forums, but with this I fell like I have to.

After reading a lot of the posts. I have to say, limiting the SP trading in some way. Is the way to go, if CCP are going to go through with this. If left as an unlimited option, then I believe it will hurt the game in the long run. As people have all ready said.

I will be here to see what happens. As my subscription is paid for, months in advance. But what happens at the end, well we shall see.

My last thought is. If you are insistent on doing this SP trading CCP. Go back to the drawing board, and think more on it. Taking into account what the people here on the forum have said.

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Everything people can buy beyond the sub is a cash grab by that definition, including PLEX, Bazaar transfers and anything you can get via AUR. It's a pretty meaningless distinction that frankly doesn't have any bearing on whether an idea is good.

No ones forgetting CCP stands to make money from this. Many just understand end users of the SP don't have to themselves, and more importantly, CCP making money from something isn't the mark of a bad idea.

Define newbro please. I like the idea, but I don't think players under say 10-20m SP are the ones who are going to get the most out of it.

Either way that's likely a no, the decision to wait till they can earn the isk or reach for the CC isn't one I feel I can or should be responsible for when it comes to another player. Besides, even if I gave them the first hit, who's to say they won't go back for more?

Regarding RMT implications, how is it any difference than seeing people hand out random isk (this does happen from time to time in NPC corp chat)?

As a newly returning player i'd love SP trading <3 <3!!!!!

Yet appropriate enough for pointless inconsequential childish antagonism? A person that welcomes opinion, but disallows any criticism of that opinion, has little to add to the forum, as it exists here and in its most ancient setting and origin. Even still, I expected more from Carrigan, who has always been well spoken. Surely he could look deep enough to do better than that, to give shape to his dissent.

We've given many examples of how a new player can make use of this feature, which could make a new player stay by just being an option that is available than the only other option that has been present, the one of tiresome waiting - which so many people look back at, incredibly, with fondness! That said, and the fact that they are coming whether we like it or not, the biggest unknown factor must be discussed: pricing of the injectors.

If these are priced at any price close to what new players could afford then they would be snapped up as they are produced by the rich lazy people before new players even figured out how to navigate the market.