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First Person Camera Feedback:-

Kind of like it but you need to pull the camera back more and allow the user's head to look around. Kind of like being in a bubble, would be nice to be able to turn left and right to see the ship outside.

EDIT:-

As it currently feels like the batman suit from Batman (1989) where Michael Keaton was left unable to turn his head.

So after stepping away for a while (a few weeks) then coming back, rereading the info on the new camera and trying it again these are my observations...

1. The camera offsetting from the ship as a means of conveying speed... still bad don't like it at all during normal flight. During warp fine but during normal flight it's just bad.

2. The whole shift-alt click camera tracking thing... still does nothing for me. It just says "tracking" by whatever is selected in the overview box but nothing actually visually changes. No idea why you couldnt just leave tracking alone, which brings me to...

3. I noticed the note about using "look-at" in order to aim the camera for dscanning...
a. Again, why couldn't you just leave tracking alone? Selecting an object and having the camera go straight to it when tracking was enabled was efficient, functional and logical.

b. Why add in extra clicks to accomplish the same thing? So now you have to select the object on overview, then click one of the "look-at" buttons (why there are 2 I have no idea other than giving you a second button option to click if the wobbly camera movement on the other one doesn't sufficiently succeed at making you nauseous) and then watch the camera swing drunkenly around.

c. The camera rotates on it's own axis independent of the ship as if you have an actual camera in space. It feels like manipulating a camera around in a scene within a 3d modeling program. It's clunky and disorienting and not appropriate for a game interface.

d. Because of the previous and the fact that the ship offsets itself from the cameras line of sight (which in itself is disorienting and nauseating,) I assume your intent is to prevent the ship from obscuring the view but is that really necessary? That's something that should be available under advanced camera options for video makers. For actual game play it provides no benefit and only serves to disorient the pilot. As soon as that camera starts rotating around its own axis and looking away from the players ship as opposed to through it, it creates a sense of becoming lost in your virtual space without any idea where your ship is and completely destroys your ability to actually tell what your ship is doing (direction its facing, is it actively turning, is it even moving at all? is it shooting, is it being shot?) which makes for a horrible sense of awareness and loss of comfort with your surroundings.

4. Camera zoom... Is very bad. The problem is simple, lets say you roll your mouse wheel through 5 quick clicks, instead of responding with an instant step of zoom being applies for each click, it tries to apply a "smooth" zoom. All this ends up doing is create zoom "lag". You scroll the wheel a few steps not now how many to apply because it's so slow to respond, then the zoom rushes to catch up and you end up face planting against whatever object you were trying to zoom in on. Then you try to scroll back out and you end up on the other side of the solar system. Adjusting the zoom speed in options doesn't help matters any. It causes the zoom to happen more quickly but also causes each click to zoom in even further which just exasperates the problem. Smooth zoom = bad .

5. First person camera... Useless toy. What exactly are you looking at? Empty space while you fly in circles and your guns point at your target? I guess it might be fun if you're a ganker trying to bump ships off gates or flying through asteroid fields dodging rocks out of boredom but other than that all I can say is ...really? But whatever, its ultimately a harmless new feature that doesn't break anything else so have at it.

That's all I've got for now as it's getting late. I CANNOT say enough just how bad I think these camera changes are. Thank whatever higher power you chose to believe in that you didn't push this live last patch as previously planned.

Again, I appreciate the hard work and attempt to add new things and try to improve upon existing features but sometimes you just need to either leave things alone that aren't broken or at a minimum work with a light touch. Don't ham fist it like this.

You can change the button selection in shortcuts. I've assigned them the way I like, which is "inverse look" so UP is "stick forward" and nose down, DOWN is "stick back" and hose up. Works well. Can't wait for joystick support. In the meantime I'm trying to figure out how to program my Logitech gaming controller to do it. :)

I really wish this wasn't just a toy and I don't think it should be. I want to find a use for it as an enhancement to situational awareness in close combat. At the moment, if I stay with first person view I'm practically blind, reliant entirely on my overview.

I've enabled the new camera on my alt and am still just getting used to basic use. Personally I really like the smooth zoom. But zooming in from the default distance is a little too extreme. One moment I'm so far away my ship is a pixel, the next I'm right up its tailpipe. I understand this is hard to balance when mouse of us have mouse wheel clicking active.

I expect as I get more used to this on my alt I'll be switching my main over to it permanently.

Two things. First, is there any way we could get a third-person camera with a fixed position behind the player ship? (no panning, rotation, etc.)? Second, is there a way to permanently set or fix the zoom level?

My mouse has free-wheeling scrolling, and it is absolutely amazing for fast zoom in/out, but that is also due to the precise zoom of the current camera system. The smooth zoom is really off putting, as when I stop scrolling the wheel, the camera continues to zoom.

Bring back original tracking and right-click panning.

FPV should resemble the pilot inside the pod, being able to look around the entire field from the centre on their ship, not a go-pro mounted to the front of the ship. Could even incorporate some visual overlays and tactical info in space
Capsuleer UI If this is how CCP envision a capsuleer, make it so.

I've been having problems with the new camera.

After jumping through wormholes or stargates my camera zooms out to max distance after the jump.

The jump animation for stargates is consistently sideways and glitchy.

Undocking starts me off zoomed out at max distance as well. Also happens when switching ships in a POS. 'Look at my ship' does not work to zoom back in. Only scrolling.

I've only noticed this while in a pod but when I'm zoomed in on a pod the camera shakes violently, similar to the shakes you'd get when the tracking camera loses its mind.

My modules also disappear from the ship ui after switching from new to old camera. It requires a restart in order to get the modules visible and clickable again.

Also the Tracking Camera doesn't seem to have any functionality with the New Camera turned on. I just tested it with the feature turned off and it still doesn't want to work. :/ No tracking camera for me.... (edit: after resetting cache the tracking camera works using the old camera. Still not working for the New One)

I love the New Camera, it's bloody awesome, but it's not working properly for me. Anyone know of any fixes or tweeks that I can do to improve the experience? Anyone else having these issues?

new camera is very laggy unless you are runnibng eve in 60 fps.

Recently upgraded my PC form a laptop that barely ran eve at 25 fps, and the new camera was extremely laggy. I now have a modern PC and run eve at 60 fps. New camera works perfectly, but still, you don't want to exclude other people who run eve at lower framerates.

Just going to point at the fact that alt+shift does switch keyboard layout from FR to ENG and back on most if not all french players gaming rigs. Because there are always a few games made with ENG keymap and the inability to switch it, most french people will have both keymap loaded. And i'm kind of sure that problem will happen for most of Europe. And pretty much every country which use accentuated characters (àéèë, etc), also non-latin characters such as cyrillic...




That. Been asked for so long...


Also, should you decide for whatever reason to change the default hotkey, it will change from an "On/Off" behavior to a "On/Still On" which then force you to go through the UI back to the default view.