EVE General Discussion

This is where i want to be..
Come on you can do this!
It's Christmas!!

Get a job? You also get to benefit from stepping away from the computer once in awhile :)

The monthly subscription model is kind of unsustainable though. People are simply not willing to pay 15 bucks a month to play this game. I gladly pay for my subscription but I think we can all agree that this will not support EVE for another 10 years. Times have changed and EVE is slowly but surely shifting to a free to play model (for better or for worse, we will see...). CCP will announce EVE going free to play within the next three years, after laying a firm foundation for micro transactions in the game. It will have to, as EVE players like to say, adapt or die.

I prefer to pay a monthly sub, i'm happy with the price

I work 6days a week, been in the same job since 2002. Never missed a bill or birthday. Always had enough money to pay for a monthly sub with all games i tend to play. Fact is "I'm not super intellectual" , but if you can't afford to pay for something, then "Just don't do it". Well thats what i tend to do, prioritize my income / life.

Besides the fact more people play in Europe then America. The. Euro is worth a bit more then the US dollar right now. Wich means with conversion rates we are paying less. ( I'm american). Compared to us people in the UK are paying something like 20 a month if the sub is in quid. So that American comment really makes even less sense then originally thought because our dollar doesn't go as far. If the UK was paying in dollars they would be getting a deal.

I'm in full agreement with microtransaction hate in eve though. I'm a firm believer that aurum shouldn't exist.

That makes too much sense. :)

ISK

I remember CCP saying almost exactly this around the time they lost themselves 10% of their subscribers.

Region locks were made for advertising restrictions not for poor countries. A company might have a Pepsi agreement for continental US, but a Coca Cola agreement for Europe. Companies simply don't want people ruining their add revenue stream, and advertising companies want their adds to be seen by their target audience.

- a bottle of so-so wine or 6-pack of beer is about $10 and usually won't last 2 or 3 days (maybe not even a day if you're like me).
- a NICE meal at a restaurant is about $10 to $15 and won't last more than 30 minutes to an hour.
- a monthly gym membership is about $10 to $20 a month and, on average, people don't go to it more than 3 days a week for an hour or two at a time.
- a good night at the bar with friends will EASILY cost $50 and MAYBE you remember about 3 hours of the experience, followed by hours of pain the morning after.


EVE's cost of about $15 a month (less if you get an extended subscriptoon) gives you you unlimited access for 30 days to a world where you can freely interact (for better or worse) with several thousand similar people (see: nerds) in ways that can keep you occupied for hours.

As far as entertainment and services go... EVE is a bargain.



Comparing EVE to video games in general...

- People buy $200 to $400 USD consoles.
----- Averaged over the course of a year that is ~$16 to $33 USD per month.
----- Plus, some consoles require monthly subscriptions of about $5 to $10 USD on top of that.


- And then there are the games themselves that come separately.
------ Average "cheap" (or old) titles are about $10 to $15 USD... which is about $0.80 to $1.25 USD a month.
The catch is that people will only play these games for a limited period of time... either because there is about 10 to 20 hours worth of single player content or a dwindling multiplayer community that receives minimal support from its maker (which is already moving on to the "next best thing). So you buy "more than a few" of these kinds of titles.
------ Average "AAA" titles are about $60 USD... usually with 15 to 20 USD "expansions" / "digital download packs."
So that is about $60 to $80 USD overall... which is $5 to $6 USD a month.
And then new versions of that "AAA" title come out every year or two... so you have to shell out another $60 to $80 USD.


It all adds up.


However EVE...
- doesn't make you pay for expansions
- doesn't essentially require you to buy "extra content" in order to play with everyone else
- doesn't make you pay for a "new version" of itself year after year
- has the potential for limitless content (provided you are social)
- it still receiving a fair bit of attention from its makers


Says who? You?

People have been saying this since I first joined back in 2009. And here we are today. So forgive me if I don't share your outlook.


Proof?

And no, PLEX does not count. It has been around for years as a way to beat back RMT and cater to the common issue of some players being "RL-wealthy, In-game-poor" and "RL-poor, in-game rich."



Vanity Microtransactions =/= hearalding of F2P


I am curious though... what makes you think that EVE "has" to be F2P? Much the same way I don't see all burger shops emulating McDonald's (while still being rather successful), I don't really see why EVE needs to emulate other games.