EVE General Discussion

BS, either you'll be back (despite my most fervent prayers to every deity i can think of including the Spaghetti one), or you'll never leave in the 1st place but refrain from posting on this Alt of yours.

And it will be for the same reason(s) as the others who have made a big huff about leaving they came back (two of whom are posting in this very thread). It will eat you up inside to think that you "lost" some kind of fight to people you don't like. And you'll play other games, and you'll realize (but won't admit) that they are all shallow, grindy nothingness compared to the forever-experience called EVE. So shallow that they won't even be worth arguing over, and you LOVE to argue over stuff.

Oh yes, you will come back (again, that is if you leave at all), but you will pretty much damn near hate yourself for it. And I'll still be here waiting for you, might even take a picture of myself with a knowing smirk on my face and mail it to you, just because.

The truth is that you are barely one step removed from Tardbar when it comes to hatred of the community and forums (which you call 'toxic') and only slightly more removed when it comes to the actual game itself (which you think is somehow 'too easy' for the ...exact same people you think are toxic).

Don't pretend like you are an EVE cheerleader, you know you aren't, you know you called Elite more fun (as one example) and decried how EVE is so unfun you don't play it nearly as much as you did in the past. Hell, you just posted

You criticizing Tardbar for being just a little more harsh towards EVE than you are is highly hypocritical.

But hey, go on ahead thinking that It's just me and damn near everyone else you argue with mistaking who you really are, if that makes you feel better.

While the most vocal elements tend to be pretty toxic that's not even remotely close to the truth. I could go into it further, but you won't bother reading it and will undoubtedly be straight back to the same incorrect conclusion.

Oh I'm sorry, I forgot that there is only one level of fun and anything else I hate. I enjoy cycling quite a lot, but I enjoy swimming slightly more, so I guess I hate cycling. Is that how this works?

Yes, and the fact that I still have the ability to say that and I'm not saying on a different forum "I dropped 18 accounts recently" shows that I don't hate EVE.

Not really. He's literally stating he wants the game to die to get rid of the community. I'm saying I want to see the game live on for many years and there's some serious choices and changes they'll have to make to do that. If you can't see the difference there then you are beyond help.

It you and a handful of others. Most people dislike me because I'm fairly opinionated (like many EVE players) and I don't back off when they stamp their feet and scream. You like to insult and attack people and hope that will make them back off so only your opinion gets heard, and what really threatens you is that I won't just shrink away because I couldn't give two ***** what some random on the internet thinks about me. I'll fight to the bitter end for what I believe is the right thing to do to keep this game enjoyable for as longs as I possibly can.

Anyway, I'm done discussing your feelings once again. Keep it on topic or sod off.

Yes we are, you're getting riled up and attacking me rather than the arguments again because for whatever reason you hate me.

I do not an will not ever care about your opinion.

Now hush and get back on topic.

I have full confidence in the abilites of CCP as a company, number drops do not bother me.

I don't have confidence in the whole MMO industry, what's been happening with MMOs for a while now, is a tendency for new content to push you into doing the content.

Eve oddly enough remains one of the better ones, as long as they don't try to follow the direction those other companies have taken.

As you know I was playing GW2, but finally gave up with it thanks to their new expansion, it's so repetitive made worse by linking an integral part of the game to achievements. Achievements should never be linked in that way.

Playing ESO atm, although it passes the time, there's signs that I'm not really enjoying it that much. Tell-tale sign is I keep reinventing my character.

As for EvE, I think I spent a lot of time playing something else whilst training this character that I've become detached from it. I can fit t2 small turrets (rockets, light missile, lasers, hybrids, projectiles) as well as able to fly some t2 frigates (Minmatar and Caldari, assault frigates and interceptors) so there's no reason in that respect.

TBH, I'm starting to become detached from the whole gaming industry.

****, ain't that the truth. I've been unsubbed for nearly 3 full years. I just resubbed my main. While I don't hate myself yet, I'm still hesitant. I was curious as to the state of the game currently. I'm not sure what I'll actually be doing in game, but I'm def going to try to limit my play time and take it real casual.

And yes, most games of any genre feel "hollow" IMO. Eve has always been more than a game to me, it is as rich and diverse as you wish it to be. It is one of the few games where the meta is just as, or more important than, the game itself.

Quick update. 30-day trials are gone and CCP has shifted back to the old 14 days trial (21 days for invites), plus now starter packages will include 20 days of free trial (guess this means that they'll get a total of 64 days of gameplay: 14 trial, 20 extended trial and 30 from the first month).

I don't thnk that this means anything (maybe that little players subscribbed during those extra 16 days), but I was feeling lazy to start a thread this news item.

It's not content that's always the issue, it's how the content has been woven into the rest of the game that tends to dictate to the player if they need to do it or not.