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No.

They haven't said anything else.



Back to sperging.

Oh good grief. It may be threadnaught page 311, but I can't let this change be implemented without being on the record opposed. I'm not torn, thinking more about it or likely to change my opinion either. Firmly opposed. I'm gobsmacked this made it past the whiteboard stage actually. How? Answering that question would be more beneficial to CCP's longevity than all else.

If the goal is to get new players into the game more efficiently, you could just augment the noob sp/hr rate or drop a cerebral accelerator into each each noob npc hangar. But if a noob wants to fly a command ship on day one - too bad. I still can't fly one and its been a goal of mine for years.

I get that the logic is this isn't ptw because the sp has to be extracted from an existing character, but it won't alter the reality that folks will be able to use $$ to purchase sp. Nor will it alter the perhaps irreparable damage to the perception that your skill choices have consequences in EVE. Even if there's a cap. Even if it only occurred on a single character and wasn't a tradable commodity.

This is a slippery slope situation and a bad idea. Name change, race change, and erasing corp/contract history can't be far behind. When choices have meaningless consequences: if one change is good, two must be better.

Don't do it.

YK

You can already use $$ to purchase ships and everything needed to fit them. How is that not as 'bad' as buying SP?

Also, I keep reading on these forums that SP isn't important. It's about "what you know", "personal skill", "experience" etc. Buying SP doesn't buy you knowledge, skill or experience, so where is the pay-to-win? What are you winning when you buy SP?

There is a cap on skill point gain. If you could just buy them with $$ or ISK then paying your subscription alone without extra cash to supplement it would disadvantage you. If you have the players and take away the cap then $$ wins. Take a look at this and imagine what would happen if team 2 could buy the SP to put cruiser pilots into marauders, some battleship pilots into dreads and carriers and the Dreadnought pilots into Titans - all with high level or maxed out skill http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=3829,3827&b=6759400,6759410&e=2,15&t=b&r=1 In fact go through any number of battle reports and think what would happen if every ship on the side belonging to the richest alliances had their ship class increased to the next level and imagine if all of them had perfect skills and then you will see the face of pay to win

There is no mechanic in the game that would allow you to insert month's or years of training into someone within minutes, The bazaar isn't a mechanic, It's an out of game option to allow the purchase of a complete package as is.

Because a ship can be destroyed, while SP (with the narrow exception of a T3C loss) cannot. It's a permanent purchase of power.

For someone brand new to the game, you are correct. However for newbros there have been plenty of great alternative suggestions on this thread and elsewhere.

The issue I take with it, is the vets that will abuse this. By 'vet' I mean someone who has the '"what you know", "personal skill", "experience" etc.'. For example a player has a tarnished history so he soylent greens his character, gives all that SP to a new character, bypassing the one true equalizer in EVE: reputation.

I am not looking forward to 1 day old characters with 50m SP and the IRL experience to make them effective, with no history to give any indication if he's a pirate, AWOXer, spy, scammer, etc.

So, even if your extreme example became reality, you end up with more juicy ALODs because Mr Day One Dread Pilot didn't have a clue what he was doing.



You are already playing that game.

Sounds inconvenient when you are camping a lowsec/highsec gate or running your l5s in lowsec huh

But that's just it. You're buying a different character. It isn't yours. It's like buying a used car. You're carrying on someone else's legacy. You're purchasing the pros and the cons.... all the baggage of that new character. If we were to view character transfers as just "buying sp," well, then you also can already "buy" a new name, a new race and/or a new contract/employment history too.

Using that convoluted logic, it isn't at all difficult to see what's next.

If they do this, it's time to retire HTFU permanently.

YK

I missed that, where do I find them, I need to buy 75 million SP for my main, 50mill for alt 1 & 25mill for alt 2 - where do I pay my $100.