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Logistics is a **** game mechanic. Peace out.

These will also make good fleet tacklers. Look at the scan res.

My 2 cents!

Game doesn't need more combat or logistic frigates! Bye!

EDIT: Replied to wrong post

They would also need to change the gallente BPC too. And since gallente have no missile ships, there is no 'sensible' ship to change it to.

It is as it has been for years, and I see no reason why it would need to change suddenly. Bombers are special outliers in their design.

Wait for a dev tag if you want, but that's likely how it's going to be.

Since SiSi has confirmed that these new T2 frigates are based on the T1 Logi frigate hulls, there's something you should be made aware of.

In the Kamokor system in Lonetrek is a Data Center for the Caldari State, where several agents can be found. One of them (Korhonomi Oti) is in-space in a Bantam.

Except it's a T2 Bantam and it's called a Sparrow, not a Kirin.

He's been there, in that same Sparrow, since I started playing in 2007, probably longer. Back then the ship had the Lai Dai paintjob, but it lost that skin a couple of graphical overhauls ago.

Go and have a look. I just did, and he's still there.

This leaves CCP with two choices: Either to change the agent's ship class to a Kirin, or rename the Kirin ships to Sparrow. The latter makes sense because it's a small bird, when many Caldari vessels are already named after birds, and the T1 > T2 progression is from one small bird (the Bantam) to another (the Sparrow), while the Kirin is a mythological quadruped of an inappropriate size.

But knowing CCP's level of competence, the Kirin will probably prevail.

Please bring the Sparrow into EVE in the role it's always intended to be. Use the Kirin name for a later ship class (preferably something bigger than a tiny frigate!)

the nemesis has been on the tristan line since way before crius. They didnt move it anywhere for that. They updated the nemesis model when inferno brought missile launcher models, and they updated the tristan last year along with some other skins and such. The purifier has been based off of the Inquisitor hull, since before the inquisitor was a logistics frigate.

What purpose would moving the purifier from the inquisitor do? It's surely not the first hull to have 2 T2 variants from it. You say it's "needed", but why is it really needed? Is there some sort of downside to having it the way it is? Or, what benefit would switching the hulls have?

but, then again, I was answering the question of what they were based from, not why they should be changed or remain the same.

Makes no sense to me that these are prevented from entering FW small plexes.
Assuming it was just an oversight, and not a bizarre decision, I hope it wont take weeks to fix it.

The deacon looks like the inquisitor.
The purifier is also based off of the inquisitor.

Clearly the purifier is out of place right?
Wrong.

Before the Retribution release, the Inquisitor was a combat frigate with a bonus to missile damage.
With the first grand round of tiericide, the old mining/logi hybrid frigates and cruisers were totally redone.

The navitas lost its mining bonus and gained armor repair.
The burst lost its mining bonus and gained shield repair.
The bantam lost its mining bonus and gained shield repair.
The tormentor lost its mining bonus and gained small energy turret cap usage and damage.

Well that makes sense right?


I complained then (not on the forums), and I'll complain now.

Let us a raise a glass of good rum to the Li'l Missile Murder Frig that never got the chance.