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Inara Podiene
Doomheim
#181 - 2015-11-24 01:38:35 UTC
How much do you guys charge per month to put a character into goonswarm for scamming purposes? I used to do a huge amount of recruitment scams last year when I was in goons and I truly miss it. Please respond
der Sardaukar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#182 - 2015-11-26 08:37:07 UTC  |  Edited by: der Sardaukar
Cloaky Hunter wrote:
A few quick questions:

1. There is a fee at the moment per POS you have set up. Will it be the same for Citadels?

2. If we were to install an outpost/citadel would th corp keep control, or would we have to give control to one of the admin corps of CONDI?

3. I read that the renters wouldn't really able to join alliance ops, and wouldn't have access to Mumble. Can renters form their own PvP fleets, and is there a TS/Mumble service for renters?

4. How do you accurately track a corporations ratting income to determine the taxation for renting?

5. I read that I'd be able to defer some payments for a while (ex. I/directors are away for a few weeks and can not make payments immediately). Can this be confirmed by OP?

6. Are we allowed to set up our own POCOs? Is there a fee to have POCOs anchored?

Thank you and good hunting,

-Cloaky


I'am at the moment renter but i was a long term coalition member. Kathao will correct me if i talk bullshit.

to 1. That would be depend on, this seems to be clear when the first renter guy really want to set up an Citadel. POs claims a moon, citadels not. but you should expect a small fee.

to 2. In the first time i think not, later maybe. Maybe it is to early to say yes or no. If there are some issues with your Citadel there are wrecking crews in CONDI/Imperium which will clean up the Citadel position...

to 3. There are TS3 (separate) and Mumble (separate) services, forum and also intel channel access. There are also some renting guys which establish weekly or more times small gang fleets. In some cases Renters and main alliance line members share the same fleet for home def actions.

to 4. Your Corp have to apply an CORP Api key. With that key the alliance track your ratting income and also tower tax of your corp. CEOs/Directors can gain access to a service page to show the daily tax fee amount (at least one have to do this to know what is to pay). You have to pay the bill at least all 30 days. But you can do it on a daily basis, too. To check it if the bill is correct you can setup your own master wallet tracking via Excel or Google Sheet and API polls.

to 5. show 4. I pay by myself at least on a weekly base to have always at least an 3 weeks buffer. You are also able to pay on a pre paid basis if you have to be offline for more than a month to cover your members for that timeframe.

to 6. If the planet is without POCO you can setup your own POCO. If there is an neutral POCO you can shoot it (same like POSes). But to be shure you should ask an renting contact. You should also not **** up others with overdrawn taxes. You are not allowed to shoot POCOs and POSes from Allied members, NBSI.

Hope could help you, iam not an native english speaker, so i also hope you can read it proper ;)
der Sardaukar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#183 - 2015-11-26 08:50:16 UTC
Inara Podiene wrote:
How much do you guys charge per month to put a character into goonswarm for scamming purposes? I used to do a huge amount of recruitment scams last year when I was in goons and I truly miss it. Please respond


just read the first post and stop to troll. There are all scamming fees listed...
Kathao Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#184 - 2015-11-26 21:53:43 UTC
Cloaky Hunter wrote:
A few quick questions:

1. There is a fee at the moment per POS you have set up. Will it be the same for Citadels?

2. If we were to install an outpost/citadel would th corp keep control, or would we have to give control to one of the admin corps of CONDI?

3. I read that the renters wouldn't really able to join alliance ops, and wouldn't have access to Mumble. Can renters form their own PvP fleets, and is there a TS/Mumble service for renters?

4. How do you accurately track a corporations ratting income to determine the taxation for renting?

5. I read that I'd be able to defer some payments for a while (ex. I/directors are away for a few weeks and can not make payments immediately). Can this be confirmed by OP?

6. Are we allowed to set up our own POCOs? Is there a fee to have POCOs anchored?

Thank you and good hunting,

-Cloaky


Sardaukar already answered some of the questions, but I'll fix some answers from the official end.

1. We do not have any official policies about citadels yet. We will publish details on that soon.

2. In the past outposts has been transferred to GoonWaffe, yes, as we needed to maintain administration and management of an alliance-level asset like a station. As Citadels wil llikely replace POSes, there obviously is not that much of a need for such a policy there and medium/large citadels will probably be easy to deploy for everyone. However, as stated there are no official policies public yet, so you have to wait for a specific answer.

3. Pretty much as Sardauker said: We offer a lot of services for free use and there are several PvP ops available for joining, including joint ops with regular Imperium forces. However, PvP is not a requirement in any way, so you are free to try, organise and join whatever you want.

4. Yes, we require a corp API key when joining (that's not an APi key from the members or any personal information included, but only the corp as an ingame entity), which are used in our payment protocol to calculate and manage taxes. Directors and CEOs can get access to this protocol to overwatch their taxes themselves and pay whenever it's needed.

5. Again, as Sardauker said. The system works without bills and without a due date. You have a virtual ledger on which you have a certain balance of ISK. This balance must not remain negative for more than 30 days straight, which means you can refill the balance at any point to either 0 or above 0 without us even messaging you.
This means you can pay whenever and how much or how less you want at any given time - you simply have to keep an eye on how long you remained negative.
If you have to be AFK for a longer while, you can prepay or appoint a director to manage the taxes for you without any problem, too.

6. As stated already, NBSI for all POCOs. You are allowed to have your own POCOs and you can tax them yourself. Blue POCOs are not to be shot, but they can be bought from the owner, unless they are nationalized and in state's hand.
Veinsha Kane
El Ultimo Hombre
#185 - 2015-11-27 06:43:44 UTC
CEO went ahead and made the required payments, while performing the required steps, just wondering if there is a timescale to response we should be aware of, or if it is an as and when?
Kathao Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#186 - 2015-11-28 10:28:05 UTC
Do not send us any money before talking to us. You cannot even complete the steps listed as you do not have the link to the form yet
Luckily, I do not see any payment anywhere yet, so please contact me first before paying or applying to anything.
Veinsha Kane
El Ultimo Hombre
#187 - 2015-11-28 10:48:33 UTC
From what i understand the form was all filled out, and the steps followed. :)
Kathao Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#188 - 2015-11-28 23:54:38 UTC
I'm terrible at reading - yes, that already went through and all is well and in process, sorry for the confusion.

Also, bump!
Kathao Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#189 - 2015-11-29 17:26:00 UTC
Sunday bump
Kathao Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#190 - 2015-11-30 22:04:22 UTC
Up
Kathao Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#191 - 2015-12-03 12:21:26 UTC
Winter is coming and Section 8 is having a warm and comfortable home in Pure Blind. Get your own house today!
Kathao Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#192 - 2015-12-06 21:00:12 UTC
Sunday bump
Kathao Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#193 - 2015-12-10 23:47:28 UTC
Section 8 is doing better than ever and Pure Blind is at amazing peace recently, as our enemies keep focusing on trying to kill us outside of the game by posting mean things.

Lots of space available!
der Sardaukar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#194 - 2015-12-15 09:43:16 UTC
Kathao Crendraven wrote:
Section 8 is doing better than ever and Pure Blind is at amazing peace recently, as our enemies keep focusing on trying to kill us outside of the game by posting mean things.

Lots of space available!


We still need more citizens!
Ranik Sandaris
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#195 - 2015-12-16 14:44:51 UTC
Been renting here for a few weeks. fantastic space, and a great community is starting to emerge. I certainly Recomend it.
Akballah Kassan
Flames Of Chaos
Great Wildlands Conservation Society
#196 - 2015-12-17 21:32:51 UTC
Can confirm Pure Blind is a ratter/miner paradise. No danger, peace and security all around . . . . .
Kathao Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#197 - 2015-12-18 02:50:17 UTC
It indeed is! You see, even MOA is admitting defeat here.
Join today!
Kathao Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#198 - 2015-12-20 12:52:00 UTC
Sunday bump
Akballah Kassan
Flames Of Chaos
Great Wildlands Conservation Society
#199 - 2015-12-22 13:30:56 UTC
Could you please explain why your alliance kicked this renter then AWOXED his Orca as he tried to evacuate? Not only did your alliance bro's kill him they then ran to reddit to boast about the nasty deed.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3x80al/that_sweet_orca/
Kathao Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#200 - 2015-12-25 04:01:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Kathao Crendraven
My alliance did not kick this renter and awoxed him afterwards, but he left this renter corp (which we do not control) and once he was neutral, he got killed in his Orca.
Rentercorps are independant organisations, we do not control them. If they kick a member or a member leaves it, that's their thing, not a matter of Section 8 or Goonswarm as a whole. If such a person then tries to get out of our space and fails to do so, well, that's nullsec.

I'm sure MOA people know this very well, but I appreciate your desperate attempt to denounce us.