Market Discussions

I know, but I also would have expected people buying PLEX for ISK to also back off...but maybe they aren't paying attention to stuff like PLEX sales.

When I wrote :
You can't short the market in EVE (who says outside?).
above.
It was meant figuratively , since
the usual form would be :
You can't short the market in EVE
(who is to say that you cannot do it outside of EVE Online).

In fact, the place I heard mentioning that you can't short sell in EVE Online's market themselves mentioned that it was possible in real life, referring to it as being outside of EVE Online.

Therefore , in this sense, I for one, was the one who said outside, and put a question mark after the word.
For two, it meant that , although you can short sell in real life, that it cannot be done without the proper channel or illegally.

Many on the Market Discussion forums.


As for you mentioning :
What you wrote confuses me a bit.
I get this a lot.
I can usually start to invest into numerating those cases chronologically, and in other orders as well.
And no, I won't include how many bits it takes to make related wholes.

btw,
Those edge funds you mentioned are not short selling with the ingame system.
Everything is done externally.
You can trade anything ingame from the game processes without doing it externally.
The system will not let you trade items for ingame ISK unless those are expanded.
Certain skill will grant you loans which will not be unpaid if a transaction is issued to be completed.

If the funds for it are removed, the offer becomes a scam, and it's a margin trading scam.
Usually those doing it are found by pilot names and are dealt with ingame.
This is not short selling the market.

As for offering 100 PLEx for 1 PLEx that is too low.
I have to raise my prices and interest accordingly.
I can't afford to get collaterals unless I can be sure to sell them without being blowed up or lose billions without profits.
That means that yes, depending on the percent of capital that needs to be covered, the escort costs will be required in full, before contract.
That means that , until I have enough to cover for the escort cost and still make a profit with minimal risk of loses, it won't materialize.

So, on 100 PLEx, and at 2 to 10 PLEx escort cost, that means that 15% only pays me 4% and less due to other costs, and start up costs, but I would take 4% profit.




" A bit confusing again. Of course people have different stuff that they are hoarding for whatever purposes. However, loaning them out does not mean they will not be available again at a later time. So when it's time to use them in "more specific ways", the loan duration could already be over. I don't expect anyone to give away stuff for longer than he can afford to do so. "

You are again referring to confusion.
Maybe I should invest with ingame mental health degree to prevent being railroaded into making you confusing.?.

As for those investments, it's just because they save capital instead of reinvesting it in possible loses.




" Most of them probably made money, yes. But that doesn't mean they cannot make money right now. An investor always tries to maximize his return. Plus, if you are in it for the long run, it doesn't matter if they rise or fall in the small term and it's even better if you can earn an extra plex by lending out a few. "

The longer, the more percent of profit generated, and the more ISK volume.
You can still, like me, buy a PLEx and sell it, to later buy a PLEx with the sold PLEx ISK at a worst rate.
However, there was an advantage to test the market and see if I would get more money .
I would have then avoided the loss.
But I would not have found out if I didn't try.
I also would have lost the possible use of PLEx and opportunities.
My loss wasn't that great either. Only about 5% to 10% or less.
I could verify since I have the screenshot with the taxes.



"Now I may not be a native English speaker but I am sure I am not the only one who doesn't know what that means. I do not hold or provide any collateral at the moment."
I'll buy your collateral for definitely possible PLEx.
means:
I'll buy your "insert quote here"
for my "insert quote here".
Eg.:
I'll buy your product for my ISK.
Or, I'll buy your product for my PLEx.

The inserted "definitely possible" part is from the author mentioning about,
" Why not make some money with those PLEX?
As long as you offer the collateral it's " definitely possible. " "

It's not for operation Acoustic Kitty while on Probation.

Holy **** that post is a year old

Not technically, it seems this thread just never died (wtf)

Damn, it feels good to be a plexta.

Yes, grinding in a case where you can play from work might be a reasonable approach to take. I assume you are doing a low demand type of grinding, like semi-AFK mining/ratting, etc. Or where you have periods where you are simply waiting (e.g. invention).

There is that...

tl;dr, prices are going up soon

Yes, I found some API code from EVE Online's Developer's link, or the forum references for 3rd party tools.
However, I never tested them yet with no home internet.
(btw, this text data above was entered without the save draft function, since it works more like a military drone than other.)

I am looking for the data on my programmer, but I believe his EVE mail are on another account, which references I am trying to confirm.
I was asked for a quote of around 500m ISK however, or request for confirmation, there weas no replies.
Looks like he could not serve me, and that I would have to do the work myself (solo).
What's the point to pay 1.8 t ISK to find someone trustworthy and not have enough to pay for programming left?
It's more cost effiicient to do the work myself and register the transferrable rights and descriptions for my own credit.

1.184, 1.183, 1.182

Actually the latter. Same reason why Gecko, Genolution and several other products that are longterm speculations crash in price atm. Everyone and their mother wants these Skill Extractors and Injectors.