EVE General Discussion

Nope, they earn more isk/hr than you can out in null and thats a hard fact. If you are comparing organisation incursion runners are at the low end of the scale, they dont run fleets over an entire cluster, they don't operate with intel channels, they don't operate with jump capable ships, they don't have to run the logistics of operating infrastructure we have in sov space. Incursion fleets are no more complicated than any roaming gang. Best part is people can still solo incursions although granted its complicated and requires a good few alts.

isk/hr is fairly straight forwards to work out and at this point we have it down to an exact science for every activity. Null is the worst place to earn your isk as a line member.

It's come to this, the great nullsec Alliances has come down to this.

CCP is the least of this game's problems.

Then why isn't CfC doing it? One of the single most lucrative activities in eve is being left unused because the biggest, meanest, 'most bestest' Alliance in the game with thousands of members and ships and hundreds of supers 'might get shot at'.

What a colossal joke.

CfC/imp[erium does run incursions in their own space, I know because my Allainces has found wormholes to them and tried to go after them sometimes. Are you really letting anti-Goon prejudice affect your ability to reason? i've got bees all up in my killboard and I don't even do that.

I didn't peg you for one who practices denialism.

What, exactly, does this prejudiced rant have to do with the measurable combat pve rewards imbalance? I'm not assassinating your character, you are, YOU have in your sig an example of the imbalance, you know 1st hand what can be done in high sec.

I get why you don't really want to discuss it, like i said earlier in this thread, a wise man once said “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” But I want you to consider the fact that the income in question is imaginary, and you refuse to acknowledge that a problem could even exist, and when asked about it you rant about null sec alliances rather than discuss the issue.

I admit it irritates me, as a PVE player I'd have thought PVE players would both understand the issues invovled here and be able to recognize how those issues connect to the rest of the game (good and bad), and mainly I'd expect you to be one of those able to analyze the issue intelligently. But you haven't.

I mean, I expect it from those fair-weather PVErs called incursion runners, but not from mission specialists like you (because high level mission running takes way more brain power than F1ing it through a TCRC wall over and over again).

That's null.sec for ya try smaller fleets or poking your nose in low sec hunting for mom blueprint.

Maybe CCP can make them static in null sec so you can run them like you are in high sec.....wouldn't bet on it tho.

Could have sworn there are null sec incursions....

No idea they need big number so it's more legit whine...

Also for the record I'm doing ~80 mil h doing VG like most ppl do did not run HQ site since forever.

Personally, thats the bigger problem easily resolved by having a new severity module that increases the incursions spawn rate in a constellation the same way wormhole augmentation modules work.

You will not be insta blobed in low(you will eventually i know i did)and can easily brake 130m/h doing nothing but VG in there but nature of those places have nothing to do with high sec and don't think for one second that if you are running HQ sites 23.5/7 other ppl do it too.