EVE General Discussion

Niether am I, mate. But that isn't stopping me from having fun with them
I've been poking with them since the first day they showed up.
And they can die like everything else.

DARE to do something different! To be first!
If all you care about is killboards, stats or I$K?
...sigh...

Well, that is basically the formula a lot of people like to go for when it comes to playing games: they want to find the methodology that will incur the most profit with the least amount of risk first before they make an attempt. In this case, the Drifters appear to be far tougher than anything to be seen of the Sansha Incursions. They are among the most advanced ships in the game.

Even if a man can take on a flight of three Drifter Cruisers and one Battleship, the Incursions are about facing all of that in groups big enough to make fielding a fleet necessary. I believe that, in that scenario, the risk would out-weigh the benefits in the eyes of normal Incursion goers, since I would think that the Drifters are advanced enough that the normal Sansha tactics would not work against them.

Granted, I say this when I am not making any attempts on the Incursions myself, because I'm located quite far away from them and I feel I would lack the skill level necessary to take them head-on, even in a fleet.

It is sad that people are not diving at the opportunity to take on the Drifters, especially after all the work CCP put into fixing the issues that initially plagued them.

At the rate things are going, I would not be surprised if people only started fighting back when the Drifters are spread out enough to become a major problem to the livelihoods of players in those regions and those around.

They are an Incursion designed to spread their influence the longer they are left alone, after all.

It almost makes me wonder what would happen if the Incursions spread into the Throne Worlds themselves. After all, the Incursions ARE about the Throne Worlds' defense.

Just stop it.
Seriously.

death to blitzing and afk pve, but i guess this is what the pve community was crying for now they will have to actually work for the isk instead of this min/max bull

well you see your comment is kinda meh, the pve'ers are constantly complaining about lack of any new and challenging content in highsec then when you get given it you are not happy because the challenging content may result in you losing a ship.

From the link pedro posted it seems ccp are taking the moans of the pve'ers and actually giving you something more engaging and challenging so what is the issue? because you may lose a ship and a pod or the payout isnt as much as you want?

I dont intend to do drifter incursions because frankly incursions in general are the most boring, lazy and overpaid activity in eve, the lazyness becomes an issue to me when the highsec pve'ers continuously try and remove content from low and null because they feel they shouldnt have to travel to get more challenging content, so when you start trying to remove my content to benefit yourself it becomes my issue and gives me ground to argue :)

hmmm think you're wrong, i wasnt talking about drifter incursions, i was talking about sansha incursions being lazy, boring and overpaid along with all the other content you guys complain about in highsec then when ccp finally give you something you still aint happy because they dont payout as much as previous content or they pose a risk of loss

The common moans i see from highsec pve'ers on the forums pretty much weekly: "bring lvl 5's to highsec", "we need more group pve", "pirate missions into highsec", "more challenging pve in highsec", so all you guys try to do is remove my content that i risk my ships for because you are too lazy to move out of highsec to do it, because you know its a risk that you aint willing to take, just like losing a ship in drifter incursions.

I also do not sit in my ivory throne and complain about the content which is available to me, if i want to do something different i get off my a$$ and go and find that content, whether it be pirate lvl 4's in nullsec or lvl 5 missions in lowsec to 10/10 deds in sov space, you are the only one sitting on an ivory throne complaining about content not being spoonfed to you properly.

yes i will quite happily fc a fleet of blinged out faction battleships into any incursion, gimme a time and place where this glorious welp can happen, but we both know i could never fc any incursion fleet for many reasons

but people do take it seriously and its not a few people/trolls it happens quite often and usually ends up in threadnaughts of arguments, its not really a blanket judgement because if these arguments never really happened then ccp would not bother in enhancing the pve experience as requested by the pve'ers leading into the whole batch of plans ccp have detailed in the link already posted.

I agree people wont do drifter incursions or any other new pve if it doesnt pay out as well as sansha incursions and is not mix/maxable or blitzable. so sansha incursions need and will get the nerf bat eventually to bring it in line with other activities.

Edit: This is in reply to Lan Wang :)

No, people with even a remote sense of reality do not take them seriously. Basing an argument on them is extremely weak. People are tools and trolls and complaining about what people say is silly, especially on a forum behind a mask of anonymity.

Most of the new PvE that CCP is adding is actually pretty good in terms of getting a lot of HS players introduced to PvP content and that should be encouraged. However doing it with a stick is not the right way. You don't have to get 100% of PVE players into PvP, just 10%. You need the rest of the PvE players or your SOE combat probe launchers will cost 100mill instead of 35mill. Same with Meta capital mods and implants. They have their place.

think you need to stop scan reading posts and actually read things before posting...

im not looking for more "engaging content" i move to new areas to do the content thats already provided, i dont sit daily and bore myself out by doing the same activity over and over again while monitoring my isk/hour.

please, ive done incursions and know the isk thats made so dont try and tell us it aint lucrative.

You guys are the ones complaining about the state of highsec pve yet you are asking me to go do incursions and show you how its done, textbook pve'ers spoonfeeding lazyness

As expected, you come up with excuses to justify why you are superior, and why we all suck for not doing drifter incursions already.
If you actually were serious, you would have taken up the challenge to lead discovery of totally new content. Instead you just sit around acting as if you are superior but when challenged you fail to show anything.