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[December] Omber

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CCP Fozzie
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2015-11-17 20:55:36 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Fractal
Hey folks. For the December release we are currently planning the addition of some extra low-end minerals to Omber ore.

We're planning on adding 715 more Trit (for a total of 800 units) and 66 more Pyerite (for a total of 100 units) to each refine batch of standard Omber. Higher yield versions will also rise accordingly.

Alongside this change we will also increase the volume of Compressed Omber (all varieties) to 0.3 m3 to match the new mineral compression volumes.

This won't make Omber into a superstar, but it should bring it up into the same rough value group as some other highsec ores.

Let us know if you have any feedback on this plan.
Thanks and happy mining!

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Dr Cedric
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2 - 2015-11-17 20:56:26 UTC

Also, yay?


Kuda Timberline
Alea Iacta Est Universal
Blades of Grass
#3 - 2015-11-17 20:57:09 UTC
Good news!!! Thanks!

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Hendrink Collie
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2015-11-17 20:59:56 UTC
Will make clearing them out of null belts less painful. Big smile
Erika Mizune
Lucifer's Hammer
A Band Apart.
#5 - 2015-11-17 21:05:59 UTC
Indy love <3 I like this!

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Exploration Frontier inc
#6 - 2015-11-17 21:54:19 UTC

Good move.

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Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#7 - 2015-11-17 21:54:54 UTC
so whats the intention with this change beyond buffing a common ore a bit? .. does it link in to other things?

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Avon Salinder
#8 - 2015-11-17 22:00:23 UTC
Here I was just this week, spotting untouched omber sites in HS and thinking to myself 'that ore really is pretty awful, they should do something about that'. I take it from this change that you feel isogen is in a good place in terms of rarity and value? I might have gone and reduced the isogen amounts in all ores yielding this mineral a bit to increase its value.
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-11-17 22:02:20 UTC
Does a lot to close the omber/kernite gap in value/m3.

Good change.
Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#10 - 2015-11-17 22:15:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Phoenix Jones
wait.. no... Omber Must Remain Crap...

Why... Why Omber Why!!!!

Actually wonder if this will kill the trit market... through I guess omber in low/null would now become a bit more valued.


Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-11-17 23:20:43 UTC
Hmmm... need some new Exhumer art... old Dungeons and Dragons based... for when I create my Omber Hulk. Bear (roll saving throw vs obscure puns)
Roberta Gastoni
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2015-11-17 23:55:03 UTC
Joia Crenca wrote:
Hmmm... need some new Exhumer art... old Dungeons and Dragons based... for when I create my Omber Hulk. Bear (roll saving throw vs obscure puns)

We just need to rename omber into umber, then it will be perfect
Insight Securities
#13 - 2015-11-18 08:55:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Neugeniko
Hi Fozzie,
This is a good move especially for Gallente & Minmatar Highsec.

The proposed changes put ombers refine value per m3 at about that of veldspar using current
mineral prices. Which isn't too bad. However using average mineral prices
for the last 6 months, omber would be better than veldspar and scordite, which is

Ariz Black
#14 - 2015-11-18 11:49:24 UTC
I approve of this change.
Thanatos Marathon
#15 - 2015-11-18 15:34:18 UTC
Nice one. Now Omber will get the love it deserves.
Uriam Khanid
New Machinarium Corporation
#16 - 2015-11-19 19:50:23 UTC
so omber is an isogen version of pyroheres.
still, except gallente-minmatar space it will be useless.
Amber Solaire
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2015-11-20 22:10:05 UTC
You can find Omber in Lowsec Caldari space too
Orca Platypus
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2015-11-25 01:05:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Orca Platypus
Phoenix Jones wrote:
Actually wonder if this will kill the trit market... through I guess omber in low/null would now become a bit more valued.

It's still only gonna be around 1/2 scordite and 1/3 veldspar in trit. Not to mention that considering miner hours are not gonna change, mining omber more means mining veld/scord/plag/pyro less. Now, plag has 1/2 of new omber in trit, pyro will be roughly equal (about 10% less but w/e, comparable), and tossing veld/scord will mean a lot less trit. So, instead of killing, it might actually decrease its volume produced in hisec, unless miners specifically drop plag in order to mine omber.

The change is very good actually, because it has implications not only on trit, but also pyerite. New omber will be around 1.6 pyerite per m3, a bit higher than current trit. That is around twice that of pyro, 1/4th of plag, and 1/7th of scord. If, assuming same miner-hours, plag or scord are dropped in favor of omber, production of pyerite in hisec also decreases, and even harder than trit does, which will possibly cure the pyerite inflation situation we have now.

Now, with current mineral prices, at full mineral cost, new omber will land at roughly 270 ISK/m3, which is within 260-280 ISK/m3 cluster all hisec ores currently reside in. So it will become a plain typical hisec ore, which is better than 188 ISK/m3 piece of derp it is now.

The hidden miner-hour based mineral balance move is good though, so I approve of this change.

ED: If only hisec mining itself wasn't dead.
Jubal Sexton
Minmatar Munitions
Electus Matari
#19 - 2015-12-05 00:26:14 UTC
Lovely maybe it'll be worth mining now! Thanks CCP! What took so long?
M1k3y Koontz
Speaker for the Dead
Stay Feral
#20 - 2015-12-09 01:33:31 UTC
This one flew under the radar. Good change.

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