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Arrendis
TK Corp
#81 - 2015-11-09 23:57:45 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
By your own admission, you are lax, sloppy, and ill-prepared.

I never said it.
An incompetent idiot goon said it about me.


Diana Kim wrote:

He was a wartarget in the opposite controlled system in some sort of minmatar rust bucket. I have no idea what he was using that rust bucket for, but I know for sure it flies and it can fit weapons.


See that? That right there? Where you said quite explicitly that you had no idea what an exploration frigate was being used for? Here's a tip: That you could not even begin to speculate on that is lax, and sloppy, and leaves you ill-prepared. Congratulations.

Idiot.

Diana Kim wrote:

Arrendis wrote:
You have no appreciation for the potential complications of a given situation, and no capacity to accept the responsibility for your short-sightedness.

Which is an obvious lie, that only an absolute idiot could believe in.


Thank you for proving me right again.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#82 - 2015-11-09 23:59:17 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
He didn't get a kill when he wasn't after one. You didn't get a kill when you were...

Valid point game:
Stupid tribals: 2
Caldari officers: 1 (from that first post addressing Arrendis)
Don't like how I score it? Explain why I'm wrong in my thinking.


Edit:
Arrendis, do you wish to be scored as a stupid tribal or should I make a "dumb goon" team for you? ATM I have you as a stupid tribal like me and Elmund.


I'm fine with either category, but I do have to dispute the validity of Kim scoring anything, considering she's been consistently wrong, and wasn't trying to make him leave, but to kill him.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#83 - 2015-11-10 00:02:42 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Now why do you even include her? She is just a loudmouth, I never saw her in first place anywhere.


Because the scoring is obviously not only about that single incident, idiot.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#84 - 2015-11-10 00:03:32 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
He didn't get a kill when he wasn't after one. You didn't get a kill when you were...

Valid point game:
Stupid tribals: 2
Caldari officers: 1 (from the post addressing Arrendis)
Don't like how I score it? Explain why I'm wrong in my thinking.

Actually, yes, neither I nor him killed each other.
However. I did PUSH him away from whatever he was doing in our system, causing him to flee. Thus:

Stupid tribals: 0
Caldari officers: 1

I'll give ya it......

Stupid Tribals: 2
Dumb Goons(?): 0
Caldari Officers: 2

Now why do you even include her? She is just a loudmouth, I never saw her in first place anywhere.

I'm scoring the valid points(from all sides) I don't know if she wants her own team or to be on ours. I'm trying to score it as if i was an outside observer, so if you argue any rulings I'm glad to hear it and would prefer you did since I'm trying to make it fair. Game started when I first put up the scores, so any other points prior won't be granted. Are you arguing her being scored? While you do not agree with her points, they are still valid points and address your comments, much like ours have addressed yours and yours have addressed ours.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#85 - 2015-11-10 00:07:43 UTC
Arrendis wrote:

Diana Kim wrote:

He was a wartarget in the opposite controlled system in some sort of minmatar rust bucket. I have no idea what he was using that rust bucket for, but I know for sure it flies and it can fit weapons.


See that? That right there? Where you said quite explicitly that you had no idea what an exploration frigate was being used for?

And here we have another goon, showing inability to read clear text.
No, I didn't write "exploration frigate", I write "minmatar rust bucket".
So, could you please stop making bigger clown out of yourself by putting your stupid words into my mouth? Everyone can see what I said and what I didn't.

Arrendis wrote:

Idiot.

Said a goon. Hypocrisy overload.

Diana Kim wrote:

Arrendis wrote:
You have no appreciation for the potential complications of a given situation, and no capacity to accept the responsibility for your short-sightedness.

Which is an obvious lie, that only an absolute idiot could believe in.


Thank you for proving me right again.[/quote]
Are you really that dumb?
I said it was a lie, because it is a stupid and ridiculous lie nobody would believe in. Stop wasting my time, incompetent fool.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#86 - 2015-11-10 00:08:38 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Now why do you even include her? She is just a loudmouth, I never saw her in first place anywhere.


Because the scoring is obviously not only about that single incident, idiot.

For ease of scoring I'm going to put you on the stupid tribal team. And granting one point for refuting her remark well.

Stupid Tribals: 3
Caldari Officers: 2

As I said before (especially since I'm on a team) she has every right to refute the score, if it is a logical argument I'll adjust it. If its "because Arrendis is a dumb goon" then obviously it will be ignored. If its "because this is a lie, my proof is _____" I would most likely adjust it to keep it fair.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#87 - 2015-11-10 00:09:03 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Now why do you even include her? She is just a loudmouth, I never saw her in first place anywhere.


Because the scoring is obviously not only about that single incident, idiot.

Are you trying to flood these forums with your hypocrisy and blaming others in your own flaws, goon?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#88 - 2015-11-10 00:11:22 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Now why do you even include her? She is just a loudmouth, I never saw her in first place anywhere.


Because the scoring is obviously not only about that single incident, idiot.

For ease of scoring I'm going to put you on the stupid tribal team. And granting one point for refuting her remark well.

Stupid Tribals: 3
Caldari Officers: 2

As I said before (especially since I'm on a team) she has every right to refute the score, if it is a logical argument I'll adjust it. If its "because Arrendis is a dumb goon" then obviously it will be ignored. If its "because this is a lie, my proof is _____" I would most likely adjust it to keep it fair.

I have already clarified in my post earlier. Stop making a comedy from that, or you will turn yourself into Osyn #2.
Well, I hope you won't descend to degree of Arrendis, of course. That would need you to be lobotomized first.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#89 - 2015-11-10 00:16:51 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Arrendis wrote:

Diana Kim wrote:

He was a wartarget in the opposite controlled system in some sort of minmatar rust bucket. I have no idea what he was using that rust bucket for, but I know for sure it flies and it can fit weapons.


See that? That right there? Where you said quite explicitly that you had no idea what an exploration frigate was being used for?

And here we have another goon, showing inability to read clear text.
No, I didn't write "exploration frigate", I write "minmatar rust bucket".
So, could you please stop making bigger clown out of yourself by putting your stupid words into my mouth? Everyone can see what I said and what I didn't. (+1, if it didn't have the qualifier of " can't read" it wouldn't have been a point, even if with the qualifier it hardly was in line with anything)

Said a goon. Hypocrisy overload. (Nothing, a pointless insult)

Diana Kim wrote:

Which is an obvious lie, that only an absolute idiot could believe in.


Thank you for proving me right again.

Are you really that dumb?
I said it was a lie, because it is a stupid and ridiculous lie nobody would believe in. Stop wasting my time, incompetent fool.(nothing, no proof. Without proof its nothing)[/quote]

Stupid tribals: 3
Caldari Officers: 3
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#90 - 2015-11-10 00:18:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Deitra Vess
Diana Kim wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Now why do you even include her? She is just a loudmouth, I never saw her in first place anywhere.


Because the scoring is obviously not only about that single incident, idiot.

For ease of scoring I'm going to put you on the stupid tribal team. And granting one point for refuting her remark well.

Stupid Tribals: 3
Caldari Officers: 2

As I said before (especially since I'm on a team) she has every right to refute the score, if it is a logical argument I'll adjust it. If its "because Arrendis is a dumb goon" then obviously it will be ignored. If its "because this is a lie, my proof is _____" I would most likely adjust it to keep it fair.

I have already clarified in my post earlier. Stop making a comedy from that, or you will turn yourself into Osyn #2.
Well, I hope you won't descend to degree of Arrendis, of course. That would need you to be lobotomized first.

I wasn't trying to make a comedy of it honestly I was just explaining the rules further. I quoted the wrong post.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#91 - 2015-11-10 00:20:37 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
And here we have another goon, showing inability to read clear text.
No, I didn't write "exploration frigate", I write "minmatar rust bucket".
So, could you please stop making bigger clown out of yourself by putting your stupid words into my mouth? Everyone can see what I said and what I didn't.


You said you scanned him down. Which means you knew it was a Probe. So, yeah, keep talking, idiot. Your stupidity just keeps piling up.

Diana Kim wrote:

Are you really that dumb?
I said it was a lie, because it is a stupid and ridiculous lie nobody would believe in. Stop wasting my time, incompetent fool.


And you keep continuing to avoid taking responsibility for your failure, which continues to prove the only one lying... is you. Really, Kimmie, at this point I'm just waiting for your upward-ratcheting blood pressure to just give you a stroke.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#92 - 2015-11-10 00:27:53 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Your stupidity just keeps piling up.

Said a stupid goon about merited Caldari Officer.
Sweet Maker... Buy a mirror already, Arrendis, if you so like to pointing at stupidity. Try it with mirror, and maybe next time you won't miss that blatantly.

Arrendis wrote:

And you keep continuing to avoid taking responsibility for your failure, which continues to prove the only one lying... is you. Really, Kimmie, at this point I'm just waiting for your upward-ratcheting blood pressure to just give you a stroke.

Which EXACT responsibility, according to your incapable imagination, I should be taking, goon?..

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Arrendis
TK Corp
#93 - 2015-11-10 00:30:30 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Arrendis wrote:

Diana Kim wrote:

He was a wartarget in the opposite controlled system in some sort of minmatar rust bucket. I have no idea what he was using that rust bucket for, but I know for sure it flies and it can fit weapons.


See that? That right there? Where you said quite explicitly that you had no idea what an exploration frigate was being used for?

And here we have another goon, showing inability to read clear text.
No, I didn't write "exploration frigate", I write "minmatar rust bucket".
So, could you please stop making bigger clown out of yourself by putting your stupid words into my mouth? Everyone can see what I said and what I didn't. (+1, if it didn't have the qualifier of " can't read" it wouldn't have been a point, even if with the qualifier it hardly was in line with anything)


Gotta dispute this one, too - she's simultaneously saying everyone can see what she said, which itself would prove her wrong, as she's said she scanned him down. That means she had a probe hit clear enough to warp to, and on a Probe, that means a strong enough hit to identify it as a Probe, which is a T1 exploration frigate.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#94 - 2015-11-10 00:39:38 UTC
Granted, however if she didn't know a probe was an exploration ship then........ Well that would be kinda' bad but still is understandable to a degree.....

Score update:
Stupid Tribals: 5 (+2 from post #91)
Caldari Officers: 2 (-1 from post #85, 0 points for #92 due to it being nothing but insults/repeat points)
Arrendis
TK Corp
#95 - 2015-11-10 00:43:14 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
Your stupidity just keeps piling up.

Said a stupid goon about merited Caldari Officer.
Sweet Maker... Buy a mirror already, Arrendis, if you so like to pointing at stupidity. Try it with mirror, and maybe next time you won't miss that blatantly.

Arrendis wrote:

And you keep continuing to avoid taking responsibility for your failure, which continues to prove the only one lying... is you. Really, Kimmie, at this point I'm just waiting for your upward-ratcheting blood pressure to just give you a stroke.

Which EXACT responsibility, according to your incapable imagination, I should be taking, goon?..


You should be taking responsibility for allowing him to escape. You've said many times that your goal was killing him, not making him run away. The fact that he ran away is, in fact, the very heart of your complaint about the incident. That means it cannot be considered a victory, as you are now claiming, because it is exactly the result you have repeatedly established you did not want.

So: you attacked. You pointed him, specifically attempting to prevent him from running away. He ran away anyway. That's failure. Now you're claiming it as victory. That's an attempt to avoid taking the responsibility for your failure.

Further, you're attempting to avoid taking responsibility for not expecting him to have warp stabs by claiming that you had no idea that a Probe, a T1 exploration frigate that is almost never used to engage in combat, would seek to run away. You've repeatedly attempted to claim your ignorance isn't your own responsibility, and that it doesn't reflect poorly on your work ethic as caretaker of the lives of your crew.

Then you tried to lay the blame on not having the right tool for the job, strongly implying that in fact, you are aware that T1 exploration frigates usually run away in combat. You compounded this by claiming you know what the right tool is, and in fact own the tool in question, but decided to pursue your course of action while knowingly using the wrong tool. Which makes his escape again your failure, and your responsibility. Which you continue to actively work to avoid via deflection.

As the captain, these things are all your responsibility.

And frankly, to seek to avoid responsibility for even a single aspect of your own ship's performance under any conditions is craven, cowardly, and dishonorable. To further seek to evade criticism by attempting to impugn my combat record as 'inexperienced' is, quite frankly, laughable in its ridiculousness. I have seen more effective attempts to misdirect and weasel away from responsibility from toddlers.

I stand by my earlier assertion that you are not fit to captain a fully-automated garbage scow. I'm not sure you're qualified to clean out a fedo farm.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#96 - 2015-11-10 01:12:34 UTC
Arrendis wrote:

Which EXACT responsibility, according to your incapable imagination, I should be taking, goon?..

You should be taking responsibility for allowing him to escape.[/quote]
Which I already did. Wow. Even at this post https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6153685#post6153685
And you continue shining your ignorance just becasue you failed to find it read it?
Really?
Oh, sweet Maker. Now, can you put your stupid nose into that post and stop distracting me with your idiocies answering on your dumb claims about me, that derail the conversation into wrong direction just for the sake of your ignorance. Please?

Arrendis wrote:

You've said many times that your goal was killing him, not making him run away.

Just because I don't list you all my goals it doesn't mean they weren't there. And it is rather sad you couldn't realise yourself that chasing enemies away from the system is sort of "Successful operation." Not as successful as I have planned, but still.


Arrendis wrote:

I stand by my earlier assertion that you are not fit to captain a fully-automated garbage scow. I'm not sure you're qualified to clean out a fedo farm.

Luckily for me, we have competent commanders in the State, and... things like you were thrown outside. For your "assertions" to stay outside as well, as their value is not greater than your own, which doesn't exceed level of a cesspool.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Arrendis
TK Corp
#97 - 2015-11-10 01:22:26 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
And you continue shining your ignorance just becasue you failed to find it read it?
Really?


I have read it. That's why I tried being supportive, and told you to let it go. But then you started up with all of this nonsense and resumed blaming him for your failure and insisting you didn't get the kill because he wasn't honorable. Which is nonsense.

Diana Kim wrote:

Just because I don't list you all my goals it doesn't mean they weren't there. And it is rather sad you couldn't realise yourself that chasing enemies away from the system is sort of "Successful operation." Not as successful as I have planned, but still.


BZZZZT. You obviously counted it as a failure because that is what you have been objecting to. While it may have been considered a success from a strategic and operational standpoint, it clearly wasn't for you. And now you're trying to redefine it in order to resume lying to yourself - because honey, ain't none of us gonna give a crap about one Caracal missing a tackle on one frippin' Probe.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#98 - 2015-11-10 01:44:44 UTC
Arrendis wrote:

I have read it. That's why I tried being supportive, and told you to let it go. But then you started up with all of this nonsense and resumed blaming him for your failure and insisting you didn't get the kill because he wasn't honorable. Which is nonsense.

And how does this story affect a random obtuse goon?..

Arrendis wrote:
BZZZZT. You obviously counted it as a failure because that is what you have been objecting to. While it may have been considered a success from a strategic and operational standpoint, it clearly wasn't for you. And now you're trying to redefine it in order to resume lying to yourself - because honey, ain't none of us gonna give a crap about one Caracal missing a tackle on one frippin' Probe.

What I have been objecting is your stupidity and misinterpretation of my words.
The situation was from one point of view a success, from another - failure. Both at once, yet you with your ignorant maximalistic approach claim like it was only a failure, when the only failure is in your inability to comprehend the situation in full together with my thought about it. Who gave you ability to claim anything about what I consider? You don't look like a telepath, and your ideas about me were idiotically incorrect.

Also I don't give a crap about one Caracal and one dishonored federal lapdog in his rustbucket. What I do care about is when a random fool misinterprets my words and barks some crap about me.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Arrendis
TK Corp
#99 - 2015-11-10 01:54:12 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
What I have been objecting is your stupidity and misinterpretation of my words.
The situation was from one point of view a success, from another - failure. Both at once, yet you with your ignorant maximalistic approach claim like it was only a failure, when the only failure is in your inability to comprehend the situation in full together with my thought about it. Who gave you ability to claim anything about what I consider?


Welcome to GalNet, where putting things out in public in front of an audience pretty much invites comment!

Quote:

You don't look like a telepath, and your ideas about me were idiotically incorrect.


Ever met one, or is this another assertion without evidence? Well, another two, since your actions haven't contradicted my ideas about you, and the words you use to attempt to only confirm them.

Quote:

Also I don't give a crap about one Caracal and one dishonored federal lapdog in his rustbucket.


Clearly, you do, or you wouldn't have spent so many pages complaining about it across multiple threads.
Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#100 - 2015-11-10 02:17:18 UTC
No disrespect meant, but Arrendis, Commander Kim, get a room. You two have the biggest hateboners for each other.

~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~

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