EVE General Discussion

This is the Eve community I know. <3333

That was a concern early on, but we've had very, very little trouble from trolling or meta-bs in the 1+ years of its life. Considering that channel has moderators from just about every bloc in the game - from Brave to Jita gankers, HS Carebears to PL, Goons to Provi - the message of the channel appears to stay constant. Neutral ground for each of us to reach each other and step out of that meta.

That said, of course it's always in the back of my mind. But, I figure if someone wants to elaborately troll me in that channel in order to waste 2 hours of my evening, oh well. It's not going to give me pause, nor am I going to be suspicious of your intentions. That's not what this channel is for.

If you come to that channel looking to chat, or vent, or for help, you will have friendly ears and willing friends. Hands down.

I pride myself with the title "carebear". I choose not to scam, bully, or grief anyone in the games I play - including EVE. It's why I choose to be in Brave, so I can help newbies and have a place free from racism, sexism and the like.

I'm still human, and will roll my eyes when someone is a bit... over the top... or appears misinformed. Much like your post here (if you'll allow me a moment to be honest).

Are there bad people in EVE? You bet. But, I've seen just as nasty ones in any other MMO. However, some of the best and nicest people I've ever met are in EVE Online. Sindel Pellion, who graciously agreed to be in the video, is a perfect example. She's the exact opposite of everything you just described - in game and out of game.

Yes, Elise is a figurehead in PL. And PL are known to have a few rotten apples in the bunch that go overboard on trolling and griefing. I can assure you that Elise is not one of those. He still plays a game just like any other gamer, and will laugh after blowing up a ship and cheer when he gets a win. But, he'll also go out of his way to try and help anyone willing to take his sincere advice. It's also why he agreed to help with this video.

CCP gave us a sandbox. We are the ones that fill that sandbox with content we create. If a few horrible people get in, CCP is not at fault. They've proven time and again that there are lines that one does not cross when interacting with each other, and that actions have consequences. They also try to balance that intervention with allowing a wide range of behavior in order to provide for us a world as close to a "real" dystopian, science fiction universe as we could ever hope to have. I can't imagine the mind-boggling struggle it is to provide both a wonderfully unique game, and the safety of their players. The fact that, as far as I know, the first mental health and suicide prevention community born from and within a video game was not only given the mechanics to flourish, but was actually encouraged due to the help it provides us all, is ground breaking in gaming. I have never known another game company to stand alongside it's players with the message "We love you, and are here for you."

I truly am saddened that this is the EVE you've seen as it's just not what I see and enjoy every time I log in. That said, I'm not ashamed -- far from it, I'm damn proud to call myself a capsuleer. And I'm extremely proud to have shared my screen with the people in the video.

I hope you find something that caters to your unique view of social gaming. Sincerely. Regardless where you end up, we'll still be here should you need a friendly ear or if you need to find resources for mental health care. I promise that.

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What's disgusting is your dismissal of this initiative which provides players who are in need of someone to talk to with support, simply because some of the people who are promoting it play the bad guy in an unscripted universe.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Maybe someone needs to back off attacking someone who is giving their support to this.

Admittedly I have no idea what Elise is like in game but on the other hand he has given his support to this so well done for that.

I am one of those people who have seen and done things that I wish I hadn't, I have been shot at and shelled, I have held a mans head together, shoveled up and picked up by hand, parts of human corpses.

I now use a wheelchair and have a daily struggle to control my emotions, my mood swings can be worse than a woman who doesn't get her own way.

EVE helped me cope when I was medically discharged by giving me an escape from the pressure of real life, I was that mining/mission running carebear.

I won't speak to so called 'Professionals' as the simply have no idea what I have gone through, Veterans do, they are capable of empathizing.

I like to be a good guy in space, I don't smacktalk or use profanities, I give isk to 'new' players, I have however occasionally shot people in the face, does that make me a bad guy ?

I now life in my own home with my family in a nice area, The majority of my neighbors are Military or Veterans with various problems or disabilities, we have a nice community to help each other.

I fully endorse this service and if I start actively playing again I may pop into the channel for a chat.

Thank You for starting and promoting this service.

lilol' me, I'm sorry you're unable to see the forest through the trees. I understand the point you're trying to make, but don't agree with most of your conclusions. I also feel you're detracting from what is, at its core, a brave (no pun intended) and admirable undertaking. When it comes right down to it, your opinions about the game and its players are irrelevant here. The fact is, this project, even if it saves just one person from crisis, is more important. Starting a new thread about how you feel would probably be the best idea, so as not to take away from what could be a lifeline for someone. I'd love to have a heated debate about the points you make, but this is not the place.

You seem to be very concerned about how people treat each other. Take a step back as Mag's suggested and you may see that you're acting like one of the people you're railing against.

i wasn't going to reply it has taken me over a day just to type this up i'm putting alot of my self in this post.


To the people that are saying this is disgusting the people in the video are bad people I’m sorry no they are not they are playing apart much like Vin Diesel or Samuel L. Jackson play there parts in a movie.

The members of our community are some of the most supportive out there plex for good charity work and supporting our members.

I know personally that our members will go out of their way to help, I suffer from depression and i self-harm. I have said good bye to my corp mates and alliance mates only to have them spend hours talking me down a few even offered to travel hundreds of mile just to come see me I did refuse them but I’m still here due to all of them.

I love this game and when I’m not up to playing it, I love playing with the deck of card (caldari) I got from one of the meeting I went too I hope to get the other 3 races once I’m up to going to another meeting or 3.

So to the people helping player like me a big thank you, to players like me talk it might help it might not but you won’t know unless you try.

I hope you're not suggesting that those unpleasant individuals who act unpleasantly in local are merely actors following a script, rather than being individuals accountable for their actions. If you're simply referring to the video, well, then, ok. :)

As a fellow veteran, thank you for service. I just wanted to make you aware (if you aren't already) of the in-game channel "Best of Us" (I have them listed on OP), the veteran and active duty military (of all nations) channel. I can't recommend this one enough - I lurk in there as well! Great group, who have actual US VA reps in the channel. Seriously a fun group to hang out with who understand the struggles only veterans will know.

Thank you for sharing, bud. I just said it in another reply, but veterans like you and I have an additional, wonderful channel available called "Best of Us", the veteran and active duty military group. Broadcast 4 Reps works with Best of Us anytime a fellow grunt, sailor or airman (or yes, even jetty jumping Coast Guard like myself) needs a hand. Absolutely awesome group in that channel.



Exactly. When people contact me saying they want to help, I tell them that I only ask that you leave the space-grudges and space-politics at the door. That channel is about the greater community coming together to help each other in our darkest moments.

I'm rarely surprised in this game, but in this instance, I am humbled at how quickly that mission is accomplished for the good of the fellow player with everyone that joins.

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