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There's plenty here describing the properties of SP as being detrimental to subscriptions.

It seems like that's all.

Enjoy.

So back to the real issue, Anyone heard anything yet on whats happening

It is, because it started for the same reason: CCP fcked up with other projects and are now looking to milk EVE beyond what is deemed acceptable within the game's core design, only to get short term income to cover the mess they created. Instead they need to deal with that mess, get rid of it, cut costs, I don't CARE what they do. Just don't sell out EVE.


I'm fine with CCP making extra money to fund stuff as long as they do so within the parameters we hold them to: no p2w, only cosmetics and no circumvention of the ingame economy and/or player created content". They can do skins, more skins, race resets (not name, corp history or SP), heck they can make "pets" in the form of orbiting droids doing all kinds of whirring and whizzing (to keep miners happy and occupied), as long as it doesn't actually impact the game. They'd be stupid not to and that really is the thing.

For some reason they're not doing what we've actually like them doing, we'd love to send more money to CCP for skins, more clothing options, more tattoos and whatever the fck else but for some reason they're not doing that or at least not at the scale or speed that could be expected. Instead they come up with this ****.


Example: we have the golden pod, I'm willing to bet a fckton of money that if they would implement more of those (one for each major faction but also the pirate factions) and make then quite expensive they'd sell like hotcakes. They're completely useless, you won't ever really see them anyway but I'd pay through the nose for a Kaalakiotaa pod and I'm sure you'd pay quite a bit to have one for a faction you align yourself with. They have the precedent and technology yet for some reason we're still waiting for this. How DUMB must one's marketing team be to not recognise this and act on it?

Case in point: Fed navy comet police skin, make a pod version of that complete with 2 flash lights (one on the top, one on the bottom red and blue), sell it for the equivalent of $100. I'd buy that for several of my characters and you can bet your ass tons of other folks would do too.

I'm saying that it will helps noobs to socialize also.

I'm sorry, I guess I didn't know there was a teamspeak skill you needed to have at 5. My bad.

I talk to a couple of brand newbies every day. This isn't about socializing, it is about one more thing the largest corps will be able to afford to throw at there new members. Small corps will not be able to afford that, especially corps that recruit from in the game, and have to worry about getting take advantage of.

I love this idea! I am a new player who recently resubbed after quitting after only a couple months. This might actually keep me in the game. When I look at how long I will have to train to be viable in pvp it seems hopeless. If I try to pve I get insulted or ganked. The biggest problem this game has is its community. Everyone says they want to help noobs but you call us Care Bears gank us while mining or steal our stuff in missions. It seems like the only reason the older players want newer players is to kill them most older players who act like they are good at this game only take fights with weaker players. The old guard needs to be shaken up in this game. Most of the map is empty because coalitions control 100x more space then they need. Why would any new player stay in this game if they know that no matter how hard they work they will never be able to compete with a 5 year character.

I think this could actually draw new players

I love this idea! I am a new player who recently resubbed after quitting after only a couple months. This might actually keep me in the game. When I look at how long I will have to train to be viable in pvp it seems hopeless. If I try to pve I get insulted or ganked. The biggest problem this game has is its community. Everyone says they want to help noobs but you call us Care Bears gank us while mining or steal our stuff in missions. It seems like the only reason the older players want newer players is to kill them most older players who act like they are good at this game only take fights with weaker players. The old guard needs to be shaken up in this game. Most of the map is empty because coalitions control 100x more space then they need. Why would any new player stay in this game if they know that no matter how hard they work they will never be able to compete with a 5 year character.

I think this could actually draw new players

Yea and then they quit when they realize they can't afford to pay for a second house note.

The $144.00 usd I'm putting into Eve every month hinges on this decision.

I'm losing all interest to log in anymore thanks to you.

Interesting reply, I would like to know what you mean by being 'viable in PVP' and never being able 'to compete with a 5 year character'. SP is important but I feel it's a strong psychological factor rather than a barrier to entry in most cases, for example for a new character it's easy to get into a e-war frigate or even a electronic attack ship, both of which are very valuable and incredibly annoying on the field. Frigates in general are easy low entry and really newbies should start from the bottom and work there way up in competence, goes hand in hand with the time it takes to train to the next thing as well, it's not I can fly a Battleship therefore nothing under that can compete or kill me, EVE is a game of rock, paper, shotgun. People won't play fair, learn, play smart and work your way to where you want to be.

How many skill points do you feel you need in order to be good at pvp?

You should know that a skilled player flying a 'lesser' ship than yours with better general knowledge of pvp will still beat you.