Crime & Punishment

And I have forum-fu'ed with CODE. members who won't agree that SWATting another player (dropping a heavily armed tactical team on them on the pretext of a hostage situation or related violence via crank/spoofed call) is a form of attempted murder.

So don't lecture me about players being "toxic" or try to red herring me with chesters.

You could try growing a pair and moving out of the protective skirt of concord.

I'm sure he got there all on his own too, right? Seems strange that players show up, get attacked and bombarded with attempts to "extract tears", then when it actually works and the target flips out on the forum, you guys act like they are the problem. Grow the **** up.

I've not read all his posts on it, but I've seen others. For the most part people aren't saying that space pirates are terrible people in real life. But that's not what most of you people are. You're not in it to steal the booty or sink the ship, you're in it to wind up the guy behind the keyboard. Many gankers go out of their way to find the best ways to push people buttons specifically to affect the player not the character, and so yes, those types of people are actually terrible people IRL. Stop pretending that it's the miner that pushed it beyond the boundaries of the game. You know better than that.

Markee Dragon got swatted a while back while live streaming eve, it's been a common (ish) thing in the US for a couple of years now though you rarely see or hear about it in relation to eve because here when you want to **** with someone, you can just run a locator and go **** with them.

Herzog had a thread with a link to the news article about the particular incident

Just how big is your mothers shoe collection?

First off, I'm not a ganker. Secondly I don't do the tears thing unless someone starts on me first, so get off your high horse with the "grow up" garbage. Third -- "How he got that way"? I'm sorry but no amount of vid game violence is going to turn me into a paranoid nutball who thinks the game reflects real life in any way.

I'm sort of taken back by you Lucas. You usually have more of an evaluation and logical thought process before jumping down someone's throat. But w/e. Defend the crazy man because he is a carebear and MUST have been traumatized so much by the evil gankers to affect his out of game happenings. Anyone who LETS themselves be seriously influenced by a game shouldn't be playing.

Not as big as your Dad's, yo?

Apologies then.

I'm not saying the game reflects real life. What I'm saying is that there's players in this game who go out of their way to engage in psychological warfare, where their intent is to upset and anger the player behind the screen. It's not just a case of competing players blowing up each others ships, it's carefully planned and tested methods of winding a player up to and past their breaking point. Why are people so surprised when it works?

That may or may not be what's happened in this case. There are crazies in games even without people pushing them there, and I've not read enough to comment completely on this guy, but it's not exactly a new thing to see someone this wound up about ganking groups.

Sure, people that get upset by games shouldn't necessarily be playing, but then at the same time, neither should people who go out of their way to wind up other players to the extent that they lose their ****.

This. Having dealt with this kind of training and the "combat science" around it, sending a SWAT team against somebody is serious business and IMO attempted murder. If the online community does not condemn and put a stop to this, politicians will, and not in ways we'll find beneficial to gaming.

Yeah man, we likely all agree. But thats not what this dude is on about. The point is he thinks space pirates are bad people for conducting in-game actions like wardecs and ganks. SWAT teams are not involved here.

I totally agree. I've seen a few streamers flashing replica weapons around (because #YOLOSWAG) and I dread to think what might occur if it happened to them.