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The difference I would imagine is that each +1 doesn't scale both offensive and defensive capabilities in a substantial way. If both are in the same package it boils down to number alone over balanced fleet composition.

some changes are cool, most are not and i feel cheated out... and no one is gonna care not even sure why i post anymore.

So glad I can finally suitcase my nag.

Just not entirely sure what to do with thissuper-alt I trained now...hmmm.

I have a suggestion. A doomsday deflector module that can link to a friendly doomsday weapon, but only 1 at a time. By reflecting the energy back onto itself can reduce or prevent damage from that doomsday. This allows friendlies to stay on field and tackle hostiles. By taking up a module slot, causes some loss to offense but gains an offensive advantage being on field.
What do you think?

DW

85% of what you asked was taped by TMC.com in either tha announcement or the roundtables

Watching one of the streams or you tube uploads will provide you quite a bit of insight

16 pages at the time of beginning this post, so I'm not gonna sift through every post before me. Pardon me if I have repeated an existing idea.

So, allow me to add on to existing or suggest some other potentially interesting Super-Weapon-class stuffs.

Overall impression about beam weapons
All beam-type doomsday weapons should have an insanely long range, but with a catch.
The weapons should deal maximum damage within its optimal.
The damage output would degrade as it extends beyond its optimal and reaches its maximum falloff.
The damage would drop drastically to negligible amounts (e.g. 0.000001%) beyond its maximum falloff, until the beam completely dissipates.
Chance to hit is always 100% so long as you're in the beam's path.

All crafts and structures would receive damage accordingly as long as they are in the path of the beam. I believe this would add an immense sense of awe like in the old days where Doomsdays were system-wide weapons. And, I think the energy output of such weapons is so immense that you can't really expect them to just dissipate after several kilometres. In deep space, free energy goes a long way unless interrupted.


Doomsday: Sickle
How will the damage be applied here? Looking at this, this just reminds me of beam weapons of Gundams (think Buster Rifle) or that from Freespace 2 or Homeworld. Traditionally, the longer a sustained beam strikes a target (e.g. another Titan along its length from bow to stern), the more damage the target would receive.

It doesn't make sense to strike a target for longer than other targets and the former targets still receive just "1 tick" of damage as the rest.

So, assuming that the Sickle would cause multiple waves of damage as it strikes a target over multiple ticks, you'll have a lot of balancing work to do to ensure that:

1. It allows tactical manipulating of the beam path so as to land the most effective damage on the intended targets.
2. It doesn't unnecessarily over-power other super-weapons, such as the Pike.

Suppose that the beam will always take 10 seconds to cross any length in space (perhaps may need to limit the arc of firing and add visuals to inform the user of the maximum arc he can swing that beam).

Point 1 should allow the user to instead only move the beam over a smaller arc and allow longer sustained beam strike on his intended target, such as another titan or a massive citadel. This would concentrate the beam's damage onto the intended targets and anything unlucky enough to get in the path of this focused, sustained beam.

Point 2 should keep Point 1 in check so as to prevent over-powered gameplay from using Point 1 to generate a beam that is akin to Pike but with a higher damage output due to it dealing sustained damage to a single large target over 10 seconds of DPS. A simple formula may be something like: 1m raw damage / 10 s = 100k DPS for each second something gets hit by the beam, where the 1m raw damage is the maximum output of both Sickle and Pike, so if a player decides to wield the Sickle like the Pike, the final damage output would be similar.

The width of the Sickle beam should be smaller than that of Pike's, which I believe is already mentioned in the Dev Blog.


Doomsday: Pike
Target, locked on.

Doomsday: Hand of God
Another way of doing this is perhaps to trigger an emergency warp of the affected ships which uses their remaining capacitor. Meaning, the more capacitor they have, the further they'll warp away to a random point in the system. This is a serious force-dispersal version compared to the mere jumping-away version as stated in the Dev Blog, because ships like Battleships will be warped far, far away and they'll take a looooong time to get back to the battlefield, therefore effectively serving as a more crippling version than the "jump" version.

If in the future the "jump" version did not have the desired impact, perhaps could try the "warp" version.

On a serious note, would bubbles and warp scrambling (from scramblers and focused interdiction) effects stop ships from getting jumped away by this super-weapon? If they do, then that would be an interesting counter to this weapon by bubbling yourself in the face of this weapon.

Continued in the next post.

You have a source for that? Don't think I've seen any numbers for the packaged volume of citadels.

Dear CCP,

This should have happened last year instead of the game crippling phoebe patch that has turned many players away. While there are a lot major changes trying to make up for its lateness please keep in mind that too much nerf isn't going to go over well and too much shiny buffs is going to lead to poor gameplay.

Things I dislike

1) Removal of Combat Refitting; This is a core gameplay component of capital gameplay, the argument that this causes massive imbalances in balancing isn't valid as you're changing other mechanics that effectively balance it.
2) Spider tanking / Force Auxiliary Capitals; While the logic is solid to split the logistics and combat roles of the carrier it effectively makes the new ships complete tombstones to shoot every time with relative ease. Specialized logistics hulls work for subcapitals due to their speed, but having a specific set of ships that will always repair and get shot at seems poor. I propose using rigs or subsystems to define a carriers role's and abilities, obviously not able to refit in combat. While spider tanking needs a nerf i don't believe it needs to be completely removed and placed on a ship that can only effectively repair in triage.
3) Squadrons - the concept of taking a fighter apart cutting it into bits and calling it a squadron for the purpose of not being able to repair the fighter is a bit dull. You're not only removing the repair ability of the ship to repair the fighters you're removing the ability to repair them in general? I'm not opposed to the new abilities but the squadrons thing I'm not sold on.
4) Nerfing hitpoints on supers / titans while also nerfing repair ability severely.
5) High Angle Weapon Batteries, the current advertised stats of these are laughable and it seems their entire purpose is a poor excuse to nerf the current ability of blap dreads.
6) Removal of carrier regular drones

Things I Like
1) New Modules, Except hitpoint and *high aspect* guns
2) New Fighter GUI and Functionality
3) Fleet hangars and ship hangars for dreads.

Things I'm Conflicted about
1) New Doomsday's and balance issues for when they're implemented.
2) New E-war for supercarriers
3) E-war Immunity and resistance. When I initially read the thing about E-war Immunity being removed I was happy thinking about how it will be possible to kill low sec supers that cant be bubbled. Then this dev blog was like 20-50 points resistance and remote ewar and I got kind of sad. Somehow I feel supers / titans shouldn't be promoted for usage in lowsec, with the force projection nerfs they've gained a lot more super activity in low sec, If bubbles cannot be used in low sec to catch these then many of the combat abilities of them should also be restricted in lowsec such as Current/Future Doomsdays, Remote ECM bursts, and FIghterbombers.

After sleeping with it. I'd actually prefer each individual fighter to have its own HP, like fighters in homeworld do: we choose squad, target squad, and they all end up shooting one of the hostile squad, but they can choose a different one and so multiple fighters can take damage at a time. Also, AOE.
And yeah, cost.

P. S. and yeah, I think it actually looks better now when you allowed refitting to everyone, than to remove it completely. Caps still get killed, just leave it as is.

On the HAW tracking:

I believe it should be closer to cruiser level ish tracking speeds.... battleships (or even tier 3 battlecruisers) are not renowned for shooting frigates on the move...