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Two boats getting reduced range on EWAR
Two boats getting Increased range on EWAR.


Can you not give 2 boats an unjustified advantage?
Vigil getting web range and maulus getting disruptor/scram range sets them above not only their new counterparts, but pre-existing boats aswell.

Keep them with their primary function, Target painter and Sensor Damps.

If you are relying on your warp core strength to get your DST safely thru lowsec you are doing it wrong!!

Also one of these frigs will last about 3 volleys of gateguns.

In null you have bubbles anyway.

Shouldn't really have any effect on DSTs, stabbed campers tho...

Consider giving the crucifier a neut bonus with -range.

The implication being that it would have to keep dunking into close range where lasers can lose due to tracking.

Webs and point/scrams are listed under electronic warfare, nos/neuts are not. There is no "utility" module section that the latter set of mods fall under, thus I'm not sure where this classification comes from.

Though admittedly that makes my prior statement off regarding cap warfare mods.

Great, more overpowered ships... powercreep is bad. Don't release this ships.

Why fly a sentinel then? Not like people use it to td.

I don't even know how I'd suggest they balance a ship with missiles and +50% web range bonus, or drones and +50% scram range bonus. it's insane, it's near pirate faction levels of godliness on cheap navy hulls. just make them go away.

Okay so here's my genuine feedback in the context of small gang/solo (since this is my area of experience and what CCP states are what these ships are designed to excel at).

Crucifier Navy Issue:
I assume the bonus will apply to the new missile disruption module, which means that if it lands a scram on you and your primary source of DPS isn't drones, it wins. 4 effective turrets, 2 drones and 4 mids make it a superb brawler. However it's rather slow so it's quite vulnerable to kiting. It's weapon disruption penalty makes disruption ineffective past 11-12km.

Conclusion: Whatever this ship can kill, the Sentinal can as well and do so without committing to scram range. Also weak against drone boats. Has some use in situations where ships land at 0 near you and you can chose the fight by spamming the directional to see what will land :D


Griffin Navy Issue:
Here's how I can outline the flaw with this ship. Let's just forget the bonus for one second. This ship has more effective turrets (with the potential for an extra missile or nos/neut), more base HP, more base cap, more base CPU (identical base PWG) and more base speed than the Merlin. It doesn't have the Merlin's tank bonus but it has an extra mid. Granted it has one less low which will means it has to sacrifice a magstab (more than made up for by the fact that it had more effective turrets and a launcher slot) or forego the auxiliary power core necessary to fit a medium shield extender (can still fit a medium ancillary without auxiliary power core).

Conclusion: tl/dr, it's a better Merlin with the option to fit a jammer. Bring a mobile depot and one of each racial jammer. A fun ship if you're into winning through dishonour. Rename to Merlin Lucky Rabbit Foot Issue


Tristan Overpowered Issue Maulus Navy Issue
What can I say, it's a Tristan with the ability to scram out to 16.2 with t2 scram or 20+ with faction scram and/or links. Not even my poor troll Venture is safe from this fit :( Extra low plus the additional CPU to fit an extra DDA or more speed as well. Oh and more base HP as well.

Conclusion: Will be extremely strong, likely overpowered when combined with links. Unlike the Garmur which can on some occasions be outplayed and die if you catch them, this ship, like the Tristan, will beat a lot of t1 brawlers even if you do manage to catch them. I noticed that this ship has the current speed of the Tristan before the proposed 10m/s speed nerf. I propose applying the same nerf to this ship and/or lowering the base EHP so that it rewards players who do manage the difficult task of catching it.


Vigil Fleet Issue
19.5km OH web. Obviously more with faction/links. Solid 4 mids, excellent base speed, 4.5 effective launchers with nova missiles, 4 effective launchers with every other damage type AND 3 drones. Extremely strong especially as webs affect oversized prop mods (Svipul/Confessor). Very strong ship. Nothing more to say.

Conclusion: I like the idea of anything that causes Svipul pilots tears. This ship has enough DPS to down almost any other frigate in the 3 minutes it has to OH its web. Garmurs however have more base tank and DPS than it so against non-oversized AB ships or ships that have MJDs the Garmur is still superior. This is definitely a strong ship but I welcome the addition of any ship that can help gangs hunt Svipuls and Confessors (will still die to Beam Confessors and Artillery Svipuls though so be careful VFI pilots).

would love too know why all 4 have so many drones, its not like they lack dps from launchers/turrets.

Because weapon distruptors aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand