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and i still do. i sincerely doubt they'll cost that much. if they do, christ... that's an absurd price.

although on the bright side for everyone that doesn't want this system in the game - at prices like ~600m/extractor any character over 2m sp, or 1 month old will be cheaper at the bazaar and there's basically no market for SP packets.

@1.2B/Plex 1000 aur is ~350m.

I'm on the side of thinking that's high as the reasoning used double pays for the creation of the character, PLEX equivalent to the seller for the creation of the SP, and then again at a similar rate for the ability to transfer it? Considering it only takes 2 PLEX to transfer any amount of SP via the Bazaar currently that price seems really high.

Edit: CCP Terminus, not sure if you have the numbers or can share them if you do, but do you have any idea about the average SP of Bazaar traded characters?

indeed. when i came up with my 24m/unit price it was based on 2 plex (the current transfer fee costing 2.4bn) transfering 50m sp (which is a figure ccp terminus used and i'm assuming he picked that number for a reason which is equivalent to 100 packets).

Agree it's boring like hell. I intend to try combat exploration and thats why I waiting for quee.

I can't strongly guess one way or another, but based on CCP Terminus advising that mostly new players buy characters I think easing the burden from a large purchase to smaller piecemeal ones could have a positive effect among new players. For older players it should be a non-issue, but we've got some really strong bias against it and who knows if they'll follow through on their threats to quit should it become reality.

you are aware at nearly 600m/unit that would obsolete the new system for any character over 2m SP (like, 6 weeks old)?

as soon as your character hits 2m SP it would have been cheaper to purchase it on the bazaar.

It's sad to see the overreactions in this thread. I'm very impressed with this feature - it's a clever, elegant addition to the game. It takes an arcane and obscure process (trading characters via the forum), and adds depth to the game by creating a new market.

People were already taking advantages of PLEX deals and referral bonuses to start accounts and use them to "grow" characters to sell on the bazaar. This approach just makes that process more approachable and accessible to the majority of players. I really like the idea of being able to trade skill points without having to also trade a character's identity, or get some value out of the skill points I have but no longer want.

The process is totally driven through the player market. You already needed plex to trade characters, anyway. Obviously, they need to balance the details so that trading skillpoints isn't prohibitively expensive, but even if they get it wrong it just means no one will use the feature until they fix it.

Honestly, I think this is the kind of progressive thinking we should be encouraging from CCP.

SP that can be freely allocated will always be worth more than SP that has already been allocated. It is like which would you rather have, a block of cheese or the dollar value of that cheese which you can spend on anything you want (and can afford with that money). Most people go with the latter.

Conversely at 300 million for 500,000 SP that breaks down to 600 ISK/SP whereas in the character bazaar that ratio is closer to 500 ISK/SP, so SP off the market (for a character less than 5 million SP) comes at a 20% premium (plus the cost of the extractor).

Some people might go and try to use SP packets to make a 50 million SP character, but that is the expensive way…in part because of the extractor costs, but also due to the decreasing returns associated with SP packets.

For CCP to dodge this problem they’d have to do away with the decreasing returns, in which case, shut the server down now and fire everyone and save yourself all that money.

There's still more than enough ways for CCP to c*** this up so badly that even the people who are totally behind the idea will be rioting in Jita/Amarr over the price of the extractors

Lest we forget ...

“Assume for a short while that you are wearing a pair of $1,000 jeans from some exclusive Japanese boutique shop. Why would you want to wear a pair of $1,000 jeans when you can get perfectly similar jeans for under $50? What do other people think about you when they see you wearing them? For some you will look like the sad culmination of vainness while others will admire you and think you are the coolest thing since sliced bread. Whichever it is, it is clear that by wearing clothes you are expressing yourself and that the price is one of the many dimensions that clothes possess to do that in addition to style and fit. You don’t need to buy expensive clothes. In fact you don’t need to buy any clothes. Whatever you choose to do reflects what you are and what you want others to think you are.

We will gradually introduce items at other price points, definitely lower and probably higher than what‘s in the store today. We hope you enjoy them and are as passionate about them as you are of the current items that are for sale.”