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MASS-PROTEST AGAINST EXPLORING THE CHARACTER BAZAAR & SKILL TRADING

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Leonardo Adami
Doomheim
#21 - 2015-10-17 21:46:40 UTC
This is dumb, the proposal is amazing and I hope they go through with it cause it's long overdue. People who stifle progress or attempt to like yourself are a large portion of what's wrong with this game.
Bobb Bobbington
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#22 - 2015-10-17 21:47:02 UTC
Hey guys, I was watching all of the replies poor in, and I thought of a game. Let's see how many replies we can make before an ISD locks this thread! Everybody start posting random crap! I want to break 100!

This is a signature.

It has a 25m signature.

No it's not a cosmic signature.

Probably.

Btw my corp's recruiting.
Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
Heroes and Villains.
#23 - 2015-10-17 21:47:25 UTC
If only the clock could be turned back on the wisom that was dust and vampires and grand visions never delivered, maybe all this shameless cash grab, milk the playerbase for skins, aurum, sp for exchange and all things horrid and against the core values of the original game would just all be a bad dream.

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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#24 - 2015-10-17 22:14:02 UTC
I liked the idea overall. Is all early game stuff. Not enough to make super power characters. If mechanics improved, it is an easy way to get proper small ships into roles without being possible to even come near us majors. Is sp transfer as well so no artificial addition of SP. Enjoy. It makes people happy and CCP money. It already happens plenty in the trading and sharing of characters.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Leonardo Adami
Doomheim
#25 - 2015-10-17 22:23:42 UTC
Boom Boom Longtime wrote:
If only the clock could be turned back on the wisom that was dust and vampires and grand visions never delivered, maybe all this shameless cash grab, milk the playerbase for skins, aurum, sp for exchange and all things horrid and against the core values of the original game would just all be a bad dream.


Stopping living in the past, look to the future. You're as bad as the OP.
Schmantoo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2015-10-17 22:50:52 UTC
I can't wait for this great feature. Thx CCP
Chocolaty Sprogmaster
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#27 - 2015-10-17 23:01:25 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
lol@dudes wearing pants


Fixed that for ya
Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
Heroes and Villains.
#28 - 2015-10-17 23:05:31 UTC
Leonardo Adami wrote:
Boom Boom Longtime wrote:
If only the clock could be turned back on the wisom that was dust and vampires and grand visions never delivered, maybe all this shameless cash grab, milk the playerbase for skins, aurum, sp for exchange and all things horrid and against the core values of the original game would just all be a bad dream.


Stopping living in the past, look to the future. You're as bad as the OP.

Wow - Endeavouring to give me advice - Were you the business analyst that convinced CCP to sign off finance on dust and vampires?

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Adooni
H.O.M.E.W.O.R.L.D
#29 - 2015-10-17 23:53:42 UTC
I have similar opinion. I do not know why developer is trying to change the best MMO game into P2W game !!!! They basically trying to find the way for inflation but this is not the way they should go - now we will have situation someone that got more money at VISA or in game will have even bigger advantage and game will eventually die. I cannot understood why some1 want to kill game that with success is with us for 12 years.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#30 - 2015-10-18 00:20:31 UTC
Boom Boom Longtime wrote:

Wow - Endeavouring to give me advice - Were you the business analyst that convinced CCP to sign off finance on dust and vampires?



Both were good at the time. Not many predicted the economic downturn which did affect CCP as well. Dust, personally I quite liked how it played. Even now, the design and concept of it is very solid. I say even on the level for professional E-sports. If it was updated to also be one of the PS4 release games, how fantastic would that have been?

Also, the vampire MMO would have been quite like eve. Smaller, but a devoted playerbase. A true online MMO with a real RPG section to it? I was really waiting. Myself and a group of friends seriously wanted to see what they were going to do. I know many others did as well. Would have been a game that could have been good for the non gamer crowd. Hard to judge without actually having the game.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
Heroes and Villains.
#31 - 2015-10-18 00:36:28 UTC
Markus Reese wrote:
Boom Boom Longtime wrote:

Wow - Endeavouring to give me advice - Were you the business analyst that convinced CCP to sign off finance on dust and vampires?



Both were good at the time. Not many predicted the economic downturn which did affect CCP as well. Dust, personally I quite liked how it played. Even now, the design and concept of it is very solid. I say even on the level for professional E-sports. If it was updated to also be one of the PS4 release games, how fantastic would that have been?

Also, the vampire MMO would have been quite like eve. Smaller, but a devoted playerbase. A true online MMO with a real RPG section to it? I was really waiting. Myself and a group of friends seriously wanted to see what they were going to do. I know many others did as well. Would have been a game that could have been good for the non gamer crowd. Hard to judge without actually having the game.

Dust - CCP trying to compete in a fps market that recycles iteself every year (doomed)
Vampires - Insert comment (Divert core input cash from main income souce being eve and divert cash resources from sustaining core poduct into vampies) (doomed)

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Marsha Mallow
#32 - 2015-10-18 00:45:47 UTC
Boom Boom Longtime wrote:
If only the clock could be turned back on the wisom that was dust and vampires and grand visions never delivered, maybe all this shameless cash grab, milk the playerbase for skins, aurum, sp for exchange and all things horrid and against the core values of the original game would just all be a bad dream.

If only the clock could be turned back from you announcing you had a great arse, me asking for pics or gtfo and you actually sending them >.> Least I think it was you. Reported for cyberbullying btw.

I'm not sure teen vamp fetishists would have gelled well with this lot anyway, and god knows what adult vamp fetishists are like. I would :shudder: but I think some of them are here already. Babbling on about stilletos and tophats and stuff.

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Wendrika Hydreiga
#33 - 2015-10-18 01:06:50 UTC
I for one welcome our new brain paste fed overlords. With luck, I'll get to be one too!
Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
Heroes and Villains.
#34 - 2015-10-18 01:14:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Boom Boom Longtime
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Boom Boom Longtime wrote:
If only the clock could be turned back on the wisom that was dust and vampires and grand visions never delivered, maybe all this shameless cash grab, milk the playerbase for skins, aurum, sp for exchange and all things horrid and against the core values of the original game would just all be a bad dream.

If only the clock could be turned back from you announcing you had a great arse, me asking for pics or gtfo and you actually sending them >.> Least I think it was you. Reported for cyberbullying btw.

I'm not sure teen vamp fetishists would have gelled well with this lot anyway, and god knows what adult vamp fetishists are like. I would :shudder: but I think some of them are here already. Babbling on about stilletos and tophats and stuff.

I assume this isn't directed at me Marsha?
if you duly requested a picture of my pert buttocks and i sent it then i guess i must have been drunk as i have no recollection of this. I assume you this photo of my pert buttocks in question that you can present to the community as evidence?
Reporting you btw Blink

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Davir Sometaww
Spooks On Pings
SE7EN-SINS
#35 - 2015-10-18 01:23:37 UTC
Chocolaty Sprogmaster wrote:
I was outraged at first glance, but after reading the implementation and thinking about it, I don't really see a problem. Skill points aren't being created for $$, they have to be converted from a character that trained them, and at diminishing returns.

While I'm not a fan of the extreme diminishing returns for higher SP characters (SP already mean less to higher SP chars, why such a huge penalty?), and there will be issues that need to be worked out, its not really providing anything that can't already be purchased through the Bazaar. It just sort of streamlines the process and makes CCP some more money in the process, so go for it IMO.
Top Guac
Doomheim
#36 - 2015-10-18 01:25:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Top Guac
Lol. Protest by logging in and playing the game.

That's not the way to protest.

If you are serious about protesting and want to send a real message to CCP, then the only way to protest is to back up your words by unsubscribing all accounts and not logging in.

Maybe keep one account active to keep your main training, but don't log in.

That's the only way to send CCP a clear, simple message that you don't agree with their direction. Tell them and then back that up with action that produces much more meaningful statistics.
Robert Warner
Back Door Burglars
#37 - 2015-10-18 01:25:32 UTC
There are two problems with holding a mass protest against these changes at this stage, regardless of your view on the subject:

1. The referred to post is a concept being floated by CCP to the game's community to ask for their opinions on the subject. It is not slated for release right now.

2. The model can be adjusted to better fit with the demands of players.


Personally I am not entirely against the idea of applying skill points to your own character. Is there really a difference between this and purchasing a character on the Bazaar (a process which also involves a micro-transaction and the acquisition of skill points). I can't support a mass protest against a potential feature which helps to modernise the game.
Yourmoney Mywallet
Doomheim
#38 - 2015-10-18 02:21:38 UTC
Markus Reese wrote:
Not many predicted the economic downturn which did affect CCP as well.

Economic downturn killed Dust and Vamps.



Ooohhh kaaayyy...
v0cal minority
Doomheim
#39 - 2015-10-18 03:18:37 UTC
I have flu and CBA to pvp, I'm in, this change is awful
NFain
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2015-10-18 03:33:24 UTC  |  Edited by: NFain
quite honestly all it's going to do is make eve easier for us and a lot more fun. I'd rather have a lot of people in shiny **** that really don't know how to fly then no people in shiny **** at all. Pirate