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oh right when you said "massive income" i thought you were using it to make pure profit rather than offsetting the cost of the subscription.

Which means that CCP is longer functioning in unison and is becoming divided. Which is not good for other reasons. Hopefully the majority with eve best interest in mind would prevail and axe this cancerous idea before it manifest itself into the actually game. If it does then Eve would slowly but surely die.

Is there a time table when this is suppose to hit or is this still up for debate?

Dave I'm rather amazed at your posting on this regard. You are quite a level headed chap and clued on in many respects.
But I feel you're dismissing facts and inventing your own to fit your stance, in this instance.

We do not buy SP, we buy characters with all the baggage associated with them. This is why many of us are OK with the bazaar.
It does not bypass the training system, as those characters had to be trained over time with the normal mechanics. The speed at which they gain that SP has a ceiling.

The fundamental difference is now we will be able to buy raw SP and inject directly. How you cannot see the difference, is rather puzzling to me.
Buying raw SP is bypassing the training system for characters being injected. If I train for the first year 2 characters, then move the SP from one to the other, that's almost doubling the speed of one character. Not possible right now, so a fundamental change.

As far as 400m characters is concerned. I personally don't think this game will benefit in the long run, from the 'I want it now' crowd. If you don't see an issue with that, OK fine. But I do. For instance, FOTM is a thing and will not improve with this change.

I'm not going to argue the point with you, I've had enough of the topic. I dislike the idea and the blog just seems off to me somehow. I'm not sure why and maybe it was my initial thoughts when I first read it, that still lingers. It is an emotional topic for sure.

You ask what is wrong with it, I ask what does it fix. So far, not one person has answered that. As the onus is upon the ones wanting change, I will wait to see if anyone can justify it. I'm personally don't enjoy seeing a change like this, seemingly on a whim.

Dev: Oh let's do up the bazaar.
other Dev: Tell you what, let's sell SP.

It's such a mad escalation and tangent from the first thought. It just doesn't sit well with many of us.

Anyway that's me done. I still like ya Dave, I just don't agree with your stance.

The point is not to make ISK. The point is if I have an account where I don't need anymore SP because it's perfectly focus trained for what it does I can just sell the accumulated SP as packs to lower the subscription costs.

There are two possibilities here:

- If I can sell them higher that what it takes to create the pack (PLEX + extractors) I can create a free account with zero effort.

- If I have to sell lower that what it takes to create them all the people training while taking a break will make a better deal if they just cancel the subscription and buy some packs if they come back

(Yes, there may be some space between the two possibilities depending on how expensive the extractors are.)

Plex cost 1.2 bill isk, this transneural package containing 2 mill SP is gonna sell for how much?

Ima is right. Medium-term, skill packet prices worth a month's worth of SP will stabilize just below those of a PLEX..

Ima is right. Medium-term, skill packet prices worth a month's worth of SP will stabilize just below those of a PLEX. There is after all, only one source of new SP and that is paying for a month's worth of game time. This is massive buff to multi-boxers who multiplex characters that do not require continued training. Ganking alts, mining alts, PI alts, industry/research alts, etc. will all be essentially free-to-play, or certainly only cost a fraction of a PLEX to keep running for a month.

This is perhaps the most worrisome aspect of this change. This will have profound effects on the economy and a massive proliferation in extra accounts.

On the plus side, this change coupled with the recent buff in skill points is a huge boon to the New Order and other highsec gankers. Using the trial period and the free PLEX for a buddy account, you can almost have a near max DPS 5M SP Catalyst ganking alt for free which you can then run indefinitely, also for near free, by harvesting the SP each month. Free gank alts for everyone, and as many as your machine can run at one time, should make our job of bringing highsec into compliance that much easier.

You can't learn blasters on trial account.

It's not flawed at all. SP can only come from game time. Therefore, these packets will cost the equivalent in PLEX + the cost of the extractor + some small profit. If the cost of the packets is capped at the cost of PLEX as if it rises much above the cost a PLEX, people will just extract a month's worth of game time from a character and buy a PLEX to activate dual-training to replace it for a quick, guaranteed profit.

So a months worth of SP will never cost much more than PLEX + extractor cost. If they ever do for some reason, then you will actually get paid to run a ganking (or mining/PI/whatever) alt. That situation won't last for long before players sell off some SP from an alt and buy a cheaper PLEX to replace that SP for a quick profit.

Unless the extractors cost so much that people decide the packets aren't worth it, they will be in high demand as you say because they are instantaneous progression. Therefore, this upward price pressure will keep them near the price of a PLEX. The only downward pressure will come from the alt farmers who will sell SP at a small loss because they are making easy PI/industry/ganking profit to offset their costs.

Therefore, SP packets prices will track the price of PLEX almost perfectly, but they will also push the demand for PLEX way up to satisfy the new demand for "free" alt accounts. There are a lot of unknowns as to how this shakes out, but definitely there will be massive changes to the economy if this mechanic is put in the game.