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Not coming yet.

But if you think this will be last step you're kinda naive.

PLEX and the Character Bazaar are a necessary evil - because the players will do it anyway. This goes from sanitizing and tolerating a crappy market to actively encouraging it. In a perfect world PLEX and the Bazaar wouldn't need to exist.

I dont know if it is really complex to see or just plain looking the other way.

I have a char with X SP. Today I can buy in the Bazaar a char with X+Y SP under the penalty that everyone can see with a little intel that my char is a bought one. That is still buying SP, but in a kinda messy way. Just as the dev says.

I have a char with X SP. After the theoric implementation of this, I buy a thing (whatever it may be) that adds SP to this char and it end up with X + Y SP. We just removed the penalty and we have something that only represents the act of add SP to a char.

That is a SP token by definition. IT does not matter how it got to the market. It is like refined ore. It wont stop being refined ore just because you bought it instead of refining yourself.

If this new system does happen, would we still have the old character bazar?

I think it's just best that you remove this awful Post and pretend it never happened, then cloak up and hide... like forever.

Even if we hold that position, by creating an official process for it CCP already moved beyond simple tolerance to being complicit with and policing transfers.

Further this way we can get some gameplay out of them. Can't scam on character transfers, but skill packets? Sounds very much so.

Can I buy some SP off you?

OMG not only no, but HELL NO. I can't believe you guys even presented this after P2W scandal from a few years ago...

The absolute most I would want (which would be completely awesome)...


Placing some kind of "Neural Net Token" on the contract system (auction or wts).

What this entails is transferring your character (for 2 plex) into the Neural Net, so that only the skills trained come along with it. This deposits a Neural Net Token into your redeeming system that you can redeem and put on contract.

Players can view the contents of the Neural Net Token to see the skill breakdown while it is on contract. Once a player wins the Token, they transfer it to a character on the account to which they want the pilot, and then can extract the pilot from the Neural Net into a blank clone, at which point they are able to set appearance, name, etc. as they see fit.

If you are the creator of the token, you can restore your character completely from the token if you change your mind, and the Plex come back to your redeeming system.


Please, please, for the love of God, do NOT implement what you proposed.

The logic behind people saying they're going to quit is mind-boggling.

Ugggghhhh MORE people to compete with, no thanks.

Why are you playing an MMO when the prospect of more competition, more interaction leads you to want to pack up and go home?

cuz ur bad and the only chance you ever stood was thanks to your "i got here first" advantage.

CCP respectfully,

My statement is from the point of view of a die hard Eve PvPer.

I think you took a great idea that is assisting new player retention and missed the mark completely. About skill trading, I honestly don't care, though I do think the SP cap on the usefulness of this program is a bit onerous. There are two sides to the debate, and both sides have merit. But what you seemed to have missed or written off, is the fitting/ capacitor/ some support skills are a HUGE roadblock to new players. Essentially, not every future Eve Bro will be able to afford the pay to play SP structure. And yes, I know you increased some of those skills recently, but you did not go far enough.

To break this down, at least half the engineering skills, the basic tanking skills, and some of the navigation skills, and target management are a many months long roadblock to new characters being able to focus their training into flying their ships and equipment in a useful manner. Basically any skill that allows for fitting, as well as, any skill required to fit a t2 tank, and have the most possible HP. This hurdle is long and torturous to new bro's, and other than being a required train, they are absolutely pointlessly mandatory. I would seriously compare them to the learning skills of old, because they are similar in a lot of ways by being mandatory and then forgotten.

This really is pay to play in those first crucial months of new bro development if you don't do away with these skills completely. I want you to make money, and I will not complain if you keep the SP sales in order to do so as long as you address one of the real issues here in a meaningful way. Even the bro's who cannot drop a couple hundred bucks at the beginning to skill up, should not have to fly **** fit ships or tackle for months on end waiting for these necessary skills to train so that they can fly the same doctrines and fits as everyone else in their corp.

Yes. I really do feel that these skills are an enormous roadblock to new players that have them sitting in station or unable to participate in fleets in the way they prefer, and flying bastardized fits, for many months on end at the beginning of their Eve careers. Fitting skills are cancer to new PvPers.

I would even suggest an annual increase to the initial SP allotment of newly created characters to further assist them in catching up to the thousands of old players that have years head start on them in this game.

That is all. I still love you guys.