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Such a bad idea. Can't stress how much I don't like it.

what new players?

also this does kind of prove my point about the individuals being part of the CSM for their own gains

I never post on these forums but i feel compelled to in this case, i think that this fundamentally breaks the whole beauty of EVE, litterally pay money to buy skill points, whoever actually authorised this idea is so totally out of touch with the player base.

I haven't been playing this for a complete 4 years quite yet, and I feel the same way as any 13 year bittervet.

I have personally attempted to train and influence at least 20 new players into making EVE part of their life. I have succeeded in only a handful of cases, because most humans simply do not have the long term resolve and commitment. I'm sure many can tell you the same story.

I played through a time when this game was still in it's most rugged and unpolished forms. No health meter on drones in the drone-bay. Ugly asymmetrical ship hulls. The NeoCom icons were colorful. There was a jukebox. Corps did not have the option of turning off friendly fire. The Venture did not exist. Cruisers were poorly balanced and bonuses on most ships didn't really make sense. I was scanning wormhole chains when probes had to be moved 1 at a time and I could only use 6 because of SP limitations I had. If you failed to update your clone, you suffered a substantial and painful loss of SP. I lost Minmatar Battleship 5, Minmatar Battlecruiser 5, and Gallente Battlecruiser 5 while scrambling to reach staging areas during the chaos of the Halloween War. I dodged gate-camps from almost every highsec mercenary group in New Eden from 2012-2013, scraping a living off level 3 missions. I was ganked twice in wspace while soloing sleepers with my old nanocane. I went through faction warfare with the Minmatar Militia. I drove my security status down to -5.2 with the first months of Brave Newbies and spent nearly 2 weeks in Great Wildlands, ratting it back up with a Hound, when security ticks were every 15 minutes, not every 5 minutes. Ancillary Shield Boosters did not exist. Ancillary Armor reppers did not exist. Interceptors were not immune to bubbles.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, I stuck with it through this game when it was far less hospitable to new players, and I earned every single skillpoint I have through trials of fire. I am PROUD to be a bittervet.

Giving new players even more shortcuts and easy way out...it makes me feel sick

Really? And the character bazaar? That didn't break the beauty of EVE?

You do know how this works? I'm guessing you don't and are posting out of ignorance. To buy SP somebody has to drain theirs. SP are not being created out of thin air. Somebody had to have an active account and an active skill queue.

- industry simplification
- ugly and stupid new overview icone, hated by everyone on SiSi and you kept updated them
- free jump clone everywhere
- assets teleportation in citadel (WTF hauling ????)

And now...

Skill sales ???


Are you ******* ****** ? Your really want to kill Eve ?


Do that, and i won't play or pay for Eve anymore.


Stop making this game simpler & less interesting, more "like the others" at each new idea. You're absolutely destroying everything for which players were on Eve, and not elsewhere.

Fair enough but there has got to be a better way that this. Lets be honest who is going to get the most from this it won't be your buddy or any other new player. They don't have the isk starting out to really afford it and who in their rite mind is going to dump hundreds of dollars to just try the game out.

What you fail to see is that, while you are training for that ship, you will be flying cheaper, similar ships, that while not as good are there for you to learn how to fly the nice shiney you are really after. Durring this time, you will game actual skills as a player, skills that you can't buy or train, but must be learned yourself as the player. No you are not likely going to be as good as you will end up being in your Curse, but when you get in that Curse, you will likely be a much better pilot because of it. Though if you "magically" were to hop in that Curse today, you'd likely loose it just as fast as any of the T1s you'll have to fly, but at a much steeper cost.

The time it takes to train, it is the time you have to learn to fly. If you learn how to fly a T1 solidly, then when you get your T2, you are going to be that much better.

I was going to post this sepperately, but your post was a great lead in to my thoughts on this. All too often, new players hear about the Character Bazaar and want to jump the gun and buy a pilot that can fly something special. As a member of Goonswarm, it is all to common, as we see our beloved noobs in Karmafleet doing this. So what happens, well just take a look at any of the KB sites and you will see, lots of pilots loosing ships they had no place flying. Capitals dieing in amazingly stupid ways, Faction BS and T2s with horrible fits, and the list goes on.

I don't think this is just a horrible idea cause I wanna watch you suffer as a noob. I think this is a horrible idea cause you will suffer as a noob, flying ships you have no idea how to fly. Loosing massive amounts of ISK that you can barely afford to make.

I have been a logistics pilot for many years, and the 3 months it took to earn my T2 logi ship was spent flying T1 logi, getting teased and harassed for being a scrub. Those 3 months though taught me alot of tactics, management and overall piloting skills that you can't train, but rather have to experience. Buying you way into that ship you want so bad is just going to make you even madder when you keep loosing them because you don't have the actual experience you will need touse them right.

This might seem biased, bitter or condescending but in all honesty, it is the simple truth. take your time learn the game and once you really are skilled, use the Char Bazaar to supplement your pilot roster with those 7 extra miners or a dedicated scanning alt or such, but right now, be a noob, learn from it and experience the game as you should.

Note that I did not say that my choices had denied CCP income. I'm saying I didn't have to supply the income personally. In this sense, eve is "free."

it smells like death , death of eve

it would be a much better ide that all transfered characters to get a free rename , hystory cleanup (employments , mails , deleted from all contacts) and a character resculpt ... or let the new owner to choose those within x days from transfer for a price ...