Crime & Punishment

It's an activity that requires three space ship pilots. The game cannot distinguish between nor enforce any rule regarding one person controlling multiple accounts. Ergo, we consider any activity that requires more than one in-game character to be a group activity.

Whether those characters are controlled by a single real life person or not is irrelevant.


If you were to so much as breathe on a hyperdunker, you'll hard counter it.


If there are sufficient CODE forces around. Of course, we're then in the situation of countering regular bumping.

hmmm you should get out of highsec a bit more

As the best bumper in new eden, and the head of the cohenberg family, the news that hyperdunking may be getting removed in the future is not a big deal. With the amount of cohenbergs around, freighters will still be able to be dunked with only two real people involved. The key to freighter ganking friends is to extend your family and really just pump out those ganking alts.

i dont think anyone really asks for a nerf on theyre own tactic because you know thats not efficient, this is funny, gankers moan about solo play yet the counter to this nerf is to create more alts, what a load of hypocrites

Buy better potato for playing of eve

I was told my MacBook Pro is a top notch laptop for EVE Online.

Not true. Just earlier I dunked two plebs. First one gave me a 500m tip for my pro bumps while dunking in his alts face while sitting in a Moa (wrong ship buddy). The second one was a lost and lonely 18b whale. He rejected my convos all while trying to change his alignment as Soban and I pushed his **** in.

Remember these poor souls could have saved ther ship if only they had spent 10m on a permit prior. I guess its a matter principle for some of these that refuse to purchase a permit. I see real value in spending 10m to save your 18b in cargo.

I am happy that you see this as well. And I agree that this is a real problem. Yet, this is no reason why people should stay in High sec and move all the PVP there or even make High sec less and less secure so that these blobbing noobs can get their PVP fix that they removed from their Null sec or Low sec farming homes. I stand by my point that High sec needs to be made more boring in terms of PVP so that people see the need to move PVP into Low sec and populate the area more so that new alliances have a chance to emerge to oppose the blobbing noobs there.

*looks towards Siegfried and thanks him for his post. *

Sadly enough, properly equipped and flown Bustards are ungankable.

No money in Null is a blatant lie. At 80-90M/hour (my unboosted, solo anom hunt, with boosts, more aggressive tools or even AFKtars, you can make more/equal amounts with less effort) with no effort, no warping to stations, talking to agents, warping between excruciatingly long warps between incursion sites or waiting for incursion fleets, no interruptions, few neuts flying around, Null sec makes me more money than High sec missioning ever has. It is not even risky, and I say that as a resident of Querious, which loads of neutrals and reds in surrounding regions. There is also more than enough people flying around blingy ships (Smartbomb ratters, for instance) in Null sec or L5 carriers in Low sec, that people can engage and should engage. But as no one is there and people rather PVP in High sec, they can do whatever they want.

It is also not idiocy that PVP in high sec is too interesting just because people are "bored of it in Null and Low" is the completely wrong approach. Instead of "coercing" people to go back to High sec from their Null/Low "homes", the other way around should be encouraged. But this requires a change in player attitude, and there lies the root of the problem. Many players do not want action/conflict in their Null sec space, people want their Null sec to be safe/secure to rat afk or conflict around without consequences in other areas of space. That is flawed logic and should be rectified.

Furthermore, I do not say that bearing in High sec should/would stay the same. For me personally, CCP could scrap Incursions completely, they are useless from a lore point of view after the years, useless in Low/Null for ISK making as next to no one flies them because :effort: and in High sec, they make people leave Null sec to make money with even less effort than AFKtars. Just as an example.

Agreed. Even I think the resists on the thing are overpowered. 97% omni resist with overheating on with my not-too-expensive fit. Practically ungankable.

Still afraid of Uedama, though. Must be all those minerbumping posts I read at work T_T