Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Currently a strong counter to T3Ds are medium and heavy neuts, and should a Sentinel sneak in, bonused small neuts.

Counterintuitively, CCP is planning to add falloff to neuts, with the upcoming BiaB changes I assume.
Neuts are strong enough to guess that they won't be buffed, and nerfed instead.

Think this should be considered should anyone kneejerkingly point out that "T3Ds are fine cos neuts and cruisers".

first of all, dont think that its bad that there is a large gap between af and t1 frigs. on fleet lvl, they fulfill different roles, and solo, the af is just a much more expensive risk to fly.

its a matter of fact that af had issues before t3d where introduced, and t3d just made these problems more prominent. just look at the ship usage statistics presented at the last fanfest (with do not yet contain t3d).

anyway, i think most would agree that the main problem with af is that they are just to slow in the current meta to be of much use, despite the fact that af make formidable brawlers.
my suggestion to adress the af problem therfore was to replace the mwd signature bonus by an mwd speed bonus, something between 15% and 25%.
this would allow af to get into the fight much faster, but not increase their brawling ability at all.

changed like that, it was much more easy to come up with a counter to the fast kiting t3d that are so hard to fight solo in small complexes within the current rule set.

i think a great start too nerfing them would be too remove the role bonus of 50% damage, im not a fan of getting free bonuses on ships from role bonuses, like the gurista ships getting massive bonus for nothing,

although i still don't get why on top of that they only need 2 drones too do what 5 normally do, the dps guristas get from having effectively 2 sets of weapon systems well bonused is OP,

all droneships need too have a lot less highslots so that turret/missile ships don't have the massive disadvantage of having too use their highs for dps where as droneships normally don't.

Oh for FFS, leave the T3Ds alone.
They are fine. People just like to cry and don't want to adapt.
I have been murdered by T3Ds plenty and have lost a bunch trying to fly them (yup, I'm bad), and still I say leave them alone.

The entire warzone is t3ds friend. If you think you see a different ship in space it's probably just two or three t3ds close together.

I am of the oppinion that the T3D's have been a very bad influence on EVE.
I am a low-sec player who invests a lot of time in Faction warfare space.

Faction warfare was dominated by a reasonably balanced mix of T1 and T2 frigs, and T1 destroyers, fighting over small/novice plexes. If you where flying any of those ships, you would be able to have enough plexes, to keep yourself bussy.
The ballance was decent, to a way that there where at least 20 ship-types that where viable for solo fights, and a lot more for small scale fleets.

With the release of the T3 destroyers, which for some unexplainable reason can enter small plexes. all of T1, T2 frigs and T1 destroyers suddenly became obsolete for small plexes.
Poor T1 frig pilots could only flee to Novice outposts. There are unfortunately insufficiënt to keep people bussy... So people stopped flying factionwarfare in small ships, without warp-core stabs.
Now we have 4 T3D's duking it out in the plexes, chasing anybody else away, without much fights.

I also experience this trend when roaming. The only thing that still wants to fight, are T3D's. Which are hard to fight without your own T3D, anything else yust flees. This makes four hours-long solo-roams with nothing to shoot. For me, it made me consider quitting eve. Cause the small scale battles i love, are yust gone.
In my oppinion. Nerf T3D's. And if you want to rebalance Faction warfare... restrict them to medium outposts and larger. where the cruisers can put up a fair fight. Yust like the T3 cruisers are only allowed in large-outposts. Leave the small/novice plexes for the good balance of smaller ships.

now rebalance again .. should have thought abt it bfr deploy t3d in tranq .. now everyone fly svipul and no one fly aslt frigs.. that class is completely gone.. good job