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frigates with ore bays bigger than some industrial ship's cargoholds...

Oh rly?

I would say in those cases the Prospect probably already was beating them as well. And if you're talking about Mining Barges, the Prospect has a bigger ore bay than the Hulk (10,000m3 to 8,500m3)

Q2: I hope they take that suggestion
Q3: One would hope not
Q4: Agreed - ORE should be expanding its presence in space
Q5: yes a low slot faction ORE ice mining accellerator or something like it would be interesting
Q6: Not necessary
Q7: Not pertinent to this thread but - yes please

Annnd Q1: It is pretty much the same question as to why people don't leave high sec for low and null. There is too much reward for high sec and disproportionate pain in low and null for the off chance of a reward.

So solve Q1 you need to eliminate ISK payouts on incursions and eliminate ice in high sec completely. Belts should dry up over time leaving only the least used systems with any ore at all. Pilots even in high sec should be declaring wars and fighting over valuable resources. 0.5 systems should be battle grounds for more than just freighters and catalysts. 0.6 systems for adventurous industrial corps and above that mostly dry desert wastelands.

The pressure to move to low sec should be high

So maybe buff the ore bays on the hulk ? (at least +500m³, so you can run your ice harvesters 3 times before they shut down. CCPls)

Why not? The hold is to carry only one product and can be optimized as such. Ore does not need any kind of safe atmosphere or packaging either so the structure to carry it can be very very simple, doesn't even need to be pressurized etc...

But they can hold compressed ore :)

I think that would be a little silly. But what you can do is go with a cloaky hauler, toss in a small tower, a compression array, and a few hours of fuel. then you can carry out 150 blocks at a time with a 15k hold. What ninja mining is all about yea?

Of course this way takes a bit more investment, but honestly, theres not enough difference in ice values between high/low/null to make it worth going several jumps in, and coming back with only 15 blocks. You may as well just mine in high sec and you'd make the same because of loss from travel time.

I see this ship used mainly in a smaller corp setting, wanting to make small pushes into low/null. Get the tower up, take 5-6 guys in them, come out with 750-900 compressed blocks in all the ore holds, then its probably worth it.

"Fuel consumption has been moved to service modules, which will use a new type of fuel blocks, made of the materials from all existing fuel blocks, plus strontium clathrates."

The new frig may help with this as well. Maybe make stront more valuable and mining the low/null ores that have stront worth a little more? We can only hope :D

Can also run around to all 4 empires and work on getting all the isotopes you may need, without having to haul around barges. I guess I'm seeing a lot more utility out of these things than I originally did.

Also..cough cough again...fix ORE Ice Miner stats to make it useful. Range /= useful on a frig ice miner. ;)

Way to mine in hostile space:
1: Place POS
2: Jump Rorqual and park it in POS to boost
3: Jump # players to system, either cov ops then change ship at rorqual, normal bridge or gates
4: Mine all you want and compress it, when that Rorqual is filled you jump it back out with alot of ice or ore

Check ORE Miner. It gets a yield bonus, along with a range bonus compared to T2. Range on strips is different to an extent. A hulk gets a range bonus, and doesnt move fast. So extra makes a difference. A frig moves fast, and has no range bonus. thus an extra few km is next to worthless. If they are going to put out new mods, they may as well do them right the first time or they'll end up like so many other faction mods...never used.