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motie one
Secret Passage
#961 - 2015-10-04 18:09:39 UTC  |  Edited by: motie one
Teckos Pech wrote:
motie one wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
motie one wrote:

For those who argue that high exchange values drives rw plex sales, so that must be great for Great for CCP? remember that the botters and RMT players will not have disappeared.




Yes, and the lower the ISK price of PLEX the better it is for RMTers. Roll


Hopefully, you read the sentence that followed this where that ^^(your reply) was clearly shown to be a falsehood, if not an actual deliberate lie designed to mask their actions and motivations? so this reply makes sense to you, (unless you were Just looking for words to clip out without actually reading or understanding the post?)

Otherwise, Clearly you have not got the message that that propaganda has been discredited?

News flash:- High Plex to ISK redemption rates drive RMT sellers sales! (Who would have guessed?Roll)

So now that statement you proposed, repeated ad infinitum almost as a universal truth, until people started to believe it, has been publicly Exposed as a lie, literally a cover for RMTers actions, new Propaganda will need to be written by the RMTers, to be repeated by the gullible at every opportunity.

CCP understand, are not gullible, have seen through the clumsy lies, and are on to them, and Know EXACTLY what they are doing.


So Assuming, you read it and the little Roll was intended as a double meaning, ironic, self deprecating attempt at humour, but just not done that clearly, here is a reply.

If not jump straight to the last sentence.

If you feed rats, you soon find them crawling all over your living room.
Who would you rather CCP support, RMTers or Players?

When Plex sells in game, at a price that is not a banquet for the "rats", and still desireable enough that CCP makes a good income, Traders have a commodity in good supply and demand, and Players can buy it for isk for fair labour.

Then Plex is good, fair and functional.

If it merely plays to RMTers and speculators, both long and short term, and creates a feeding frenzy where traders drive the price to more and more unrealistic levels, and end users cease to even consider it as something that they can actually use.

Then plex is actually something harmful, and damaging, at so many levels.

I do not believe that that can, or will continue. It will either be steered back into a healthy state, or there will be an almighty correction.

Even a Blind rat, nailed in a barrel, and placed in a dark cave, should be able to see that the money river is going to and is beginning to run dry.

You of course have the right to continue in your beliefs, in spite of everything.


Motie, once again, you have it completely backwards. If I want to "buy ISK" broadly speaking I can:

A. Buy just over a billion ISK legally and risk nothing in terms of my account status or the balance of my wallet.
B. Buy 1 billion ISK illegally and risk a ban and having my wallet drained, possibly set negative.

Which is better?

In fact, the higher the price of PLEX in option A, the better and better that deal looks. More ISK zero risk.

To claim otherwise is simply pure idiocy.

What??? When someone is buying a plex with a stolen or fraudulent credit card and selling to a gullible player wanting to save a few rubles, etc.(whatever has a large disparity in value) the RMT'er really doesn't give a damn for Either CCP or the victim with the empty wallet. The more the sucker believes he will get for his plex, the more the demand to buy it.

Read the minutes.
CCP are quite clear as to what is going on.
Or do you believe that the RMTers are commiting credit card fraud, just to keep a large Plex collection and do not want to sell them?
They are a direct Competitor to CCP and the Higher the Plex sell value, the more stupid people they can sell to. The buyers always imagine somehow that THEY will never get caught.
Never not bet on stupid.
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#962 - 2015-10-04 18:28:33 UTC
motie one wrote:

What??? When someone is buying a plex with a stolen or fraudulent credit card and selling to a gullible player wanting to save a few rubles, etc.(whatever has a large disparity in value) one really doesn't give a damn for Either CCP or the victim with the empty wallet.

Read the minutes.


There you go, mixing apples and oranges...hell not even oranges more like apples and pianos. I was talking about how the high ISK price of PLEX reduces the number of customers for websites that sell ISK. I was not addressing RL criminal activites such as credit card fraud. In any event trying to reduce the price of PLEX in game to address RL crimes strikes me as errant nonsense. It is punishing players for things they have not done nor have any control over.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
motie one
Secret Passage
#963 - 2015-10-04 18:36:54 UTC  |  Edited by: motie one
Teckos Pech wrote:
motie one wrote:

What??? When someone is buying a plex with a stolen or fraudulent credit card and selling to a gullible player wanting to save a few rubles, etc.(whatever has a large disparity in value) one really doesn't give a damn for Either CCP or the victim with the empty wallet.

Read the minutes.


There you go, mixing apples and oranges...hell not even oranges more like apples and pianos. I was talking about how the high ISK price of PLEX reduces the number of customers for websites that sell ISK. I was not addressing RL criminal activites such as credit card fraud. In any event trying to reduce the price of PLEX in game to address RL crimes strikes me as errant nonsense. It is punishing players for things they have not done nor have any control over.



Let me try to explain it in simple words.

The high Price of plex in certain countries, in real money makes the unofficial transaction appealing.
The high price of plex in game makes the offer of a plex for a reduced sum of real money more attractive.
The high price of plex in game makes the desireability of Plex greater, encouraging more sales. Of both official and unofficial transactions
RMT traders are competing directly with CCP and Official sellers for the sale of these Plex.

Just do a quick google for legitimate sounding sites. Some are quite convincing, and how are they going to know? For example the official list shows only Amazon USA, what about those sold on Amazon UK and Amazon Germany?
CCP are selling there, but apparently they are not an official supplier? (They are genuine). But they could just be someone using that name.

For some, the prospect of a good deal outweighs common sense, especially if they do not know it is an unauthorised route, that may have consequences.

Please GOD, LET YOU UNDERSTAND THAT!
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#964 - 2015-10-04 19:31:25 UTC
motie one wrote:
The high Price of plex in certain countries, in real money makes the unofficial transaction appealing.


Could you describe the scenario in which this happens? Include all prices and exchange rates please.

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Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#965 - 2015-10-04 19:33:03 UTC
motie one wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
motie one wrote:

What??? When someone is buying a plex with a stolen or fraudulent credit card and selling to a gullible player wanting to save a few rubles, etc.(whatever has a large disparity in value) one really doesn't give a damn for Either CCP or the victim with the empty wallet.

Read the minutes.


There you go, mixing apples and oranges...hell not even oranges more like apples and pianos. I was talking about how the high ISK price of PLEX reduces the number of customers for websites that sell ISK. I was not addressing RL criminal activites such as credit card fraud. In any event trying to reduce the price of PLEX in game to address RL crimes strikes me as errant nonsense. It is punishing players for things they have not done nor have any control over.



Let me try to explain it in simple words.

The high Price of plex in certain countries, in real money makes the unofficial transaction appealing.
The high price of plex in game makes the offer of a plex for a reduced sum of real money more attractive.
The high price of plex in game makes the desireability of Plex greater, encouraging more sales. Of both official and unofficial transactions
RMT traders are competing directly with CCP and Official sellers for the sale of these Plex.

Just do a quick google for legitimate sounding sites. Some are quite convincing, and how are they going to know? For example the official list shows only Amazon USA, what about those sold on Amazon UK and Amazon Germany?
CCP are selling there, but apparently they are not an official supplier? (They are genuine). But they could just be someone using that name.

For some, the prospect of a good deal outweighs common sense, especially if they do not know it is an unauthorised route, that may have consequences.

Please GOD, LET YOU UNDERSTAND THAT!


Please train reading comprehension to level 1.

Yes, I get what you are saying, but to use that as an argument that PLEX prices in the game should be lowered is just nonsense.

If player A has alot of ISK and decides to invest it in PLEX because it is a nice hedge against inflation and he doesn't have any other viable options at the moment...then motie one's idiotic idea of producing PLEX in game is for some idiotic reason implemented to...curb RL crime (Whisky Tango Foxtrot)...then that player is essentially suffering a loss due to RL crime he was in no way a party too.

Nerfing good players who are not breaking in-game rules or even RL laws to get at some bad actors is dumb.

Oh...and no, the high price of PLEX in terms of ISK has an ambiguous effect on PLEX sales in RL. While the high value in terms of ISK would lead to an increase in sales, the higher value means a player may only have to sell 1 or 2 whereas before he might have sold 3 or 4.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
motie one
Secret Passage
#966 - 2015-10-04 19:37:28 UTC  |  Edited by: motie one
Teckos Pech wrote:
motie one wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
motie one wrote:

What??? When someone is buying a plex with a stolen or fraudulent credit card and selling to a gullible player wanting to save a few rubles, etc.(whatever has a large disparity in value) one really doesn't give a damn for Either CCP or the victim with the empty wallet.

Read the minutes.


There you go, mixing apples and oranges...hell not even oranges more like apples and pianos. I was talking about how the high ISK price of PLEX reduces the number of customers for websites that sell ISK. I was not addressing RL criminal activites such as credit card fraud. In any event trying to reduce the price of PLEX in game to address RL crimes strikes me as errant nonsense. It is punishing players for things they have not done nor have any control over.



Let me try to explain it in simple words.

The high Price of plex in certain countries, in real money makes the unofficial transaction appealing.
The high price of plex in game makes the offer of a plex for a reduced sum of real money more attractive.
The high price of plex in game makes the desireability of Plex greater, encouraging more sales. Of both official and unofficial transactions
RMT traders are competing directly with CCP and Official sellers for the sale of these Plex.

Just do a quick google for legitimate sounding sites. Some are quite convincing, and how are they going to know? For example the official list shows only Amazon USA, what about those sold on Amazon UK and Amazon Germany?
CCP are selling there, but apparently they are not an official supplier? (They are genuine). But they could just be someone using that name.

For some, the prospect of a good deal outweighs common sense, especially if they do not know it is an unauthorised route, that may have consequences.

Please GOD, LET YOU UNDERSTAND THAT!


Please train reading comprehension to level 1.

Yes, I get what you are saying, but to use that as an argument that PLEX prices in the game should be lowered is just nonsense.

If player A has alot of ISK and decides to invest it in PLEX because it is a nice hedge against inflation and he doesn't have any other viable options at the moment...then motie one's idiotic idea of producing PLEX in game is for some idiotic reason implemented to...curb RL crime (Whisky Tango Foxtrot)...then that player is essentially suffering a loss due to RL crime he was in no way a party too.

Nerfing good players who are not breaking in-game rules or even RL laws to get at some bad actors is dumb.

Oh...and no, the high price of PLEX in terms of ISK has an ambiguous effect on PLEX sales in RL. While the high value in terms of ISK would lead to an increase in sales, the higher value means a player may only have to sell 1 or 2 whereas before he might have sold 3 or 4.


Ok, I understand that attempting to reason is not going to work, I am sorry if I have embarrassed you and things have gone over your head. I really didn't know.
Fly safe, enjoy, the game.
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#967 - 2015-10-04 19:39:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Teckos Pech
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
motie one wrote:
The high Price of plex in certain countries, in real money makes the unofficial transaction appealing.


Could you describe the scenario in which this happens? Include all prices and exchange rates please.


I think he means high relative to income. Frankly I think this part of his narrative is useless as it is likely trivial.

However, that some people might try to use credit card fraud to obtain PLEX and then sell them for RL money might be a thing. v0v

I haven't seen any numbers, so I can't say. And I doubt motie has either. Right now he is grasping at straws to try and save his completely nonsensical suggestion that players be allowed to make PLEX in game.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#968 - 2015-10-04 22:32:07 UTC
As an economist I find the complaints about higher PLEX prices discouraging people from keeping their accounts subbed perplexing.

To make some of the numbers simple, assume the RL cost of a PLEX is $20.

Assume that at some point back in time our average player "paid" 10 hours of grinding to afford his PLEX via ISK. Now, the cost is 20 hours for the same PLEX. Further, assume the average player has income of $20/hour.

What I find perplexing is this...1 hour or RL work would be enough to buy that PLEX. If the cost of paying for a sub via credit card is $15 you could trade 0.75 hours of RL work for the same 30 days.

From standard plain old vanilla neo-classical economics the labor-leisure trade off implies that a person is indifferent between an extra hour leisure or the additional $20 of income from working. This implies that leisure has a value of $20/hour.

Here is the problem: the 10 hours has an implicit value of $200 whereas the 20 hours has an implicit value of $400.

Based on this...playing 20 hours over the month yields $400 of leisure time! You should be happy!

The only way this makes sense is if grinding for ISK type of play comes with a decreasing marginal rate of substitution. That is the more you grind the less enjoyment you get out of it and after a certain point there are other things you'd rather spend your leisure time doing.

Soooo...switch over and pay cash, you'll only have to work an extra 0.75 hours for the cost of a sub and you can have 9.25 hours in Eve were you wont have to be grinding (nearly as much at any rate)...which presumably would provide an even higher level of utility (enjoyment).

Thus, I find the claims that lowering the PLEX price somehow will bring back players completely and totally unconvincing, generally speaking. The OP given his circumstances may have a fixed income which could put a hard constraint on switching over to paying his subs with cash difficult if not impossible. However, I don't think the bulk of the Eve population falls into that category.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
motie one
Secret Passage
#969 - 2015-10-04 23:01:53 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
As an economist I find the complaints about higher PLEX prices discouraging people from keeping their accounts subbed perplexing.

To make some of the numbers simple, assume the RL cost of a PLEX is $20.

Assume that at some point back in time our average player "paid" 10 hours of grinding to afford his PLEX via ISK. Now, the cost is 20 hours for the same PLEX. Further, assume the average player has income of $20/hour.

What I find perplexing is this...1 hour or RL work would be enough to buy that PLEX. If the cost of paying for a sub via credit card is $15 you could trade 0.75 hours of RL work for the same 30 days.

From standard plain old vanilla neo-classical economics the labor-leisure trade off implies that a person is indifferent between an extra hour leisure or the additional $20 of income from working. This implies that leisure has a value of $20/hour.

Here is the problem: the 10 hours has an implicit value of $200 whereas the 20 hours has an implicit value of $400.

Based on this...playing 20 hours over the month yields $400 of leisure time! You should be happy!

The only way this makes sense is if grinding for ISK type of play comes with a decreasing marginal rate of substitution. That is the more you grind the less enjoyment you get out of it and after a certain point there are other things you'd rather spend your leisure time doing.

Soooo...switch over and pay cash, you'll only have to work an extra 0.75 hours for the cost of a sub and you can have 9.25 hours in Eve were you wont have to be grinding (nearly as much at any rate)...which presumably would provide an even higher level of utility (enjoyment).

Thus, I find the claims that lowering the PLEX price somehow will bring back players completely and totally unconvincing, generally speaking. The OP given his circumstances may have a fixed income which could put a hard constraint on switching over to paying his subs with cash difficult if not impossible. However, I don't think the bulk of the Eve population falls into that category.


I have desperately struggled not to answer, but please, for the good of the world, do not turn your Armchair economics hobby into a profession.
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#970 - 2015-10-05 00:48:04 UTC
motie one wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
As an economist I find the complaints about higher PLEX prices discouraging people from keeping their accounts subbed perplexing.

To make some of the numbers simple, assume the RL cost of a PLEX is $20.

Assume that at some point back in time our average player "paid" 10 hours of grinding to afford his PLEX via ISK. Now, the cost is 20 hours for the same PLEX. Further, assume the average player has income of $20/hour.

What I find perplexing is this...1 hour or RL work would be enough to buy that PLEX. If the cost of paying for a sub via credit card is $15 you could trade 0.75 hours of RL work for the same 30 days.

From standard plain old vanilla neo-classical economics the labor-leisure trade off implies that a person is indifferent between an extra hour leisure or the additional $20 of income from working. This implies that leisure has a value of $20/hour.

Here is the problem: the 10 hours has an implicit value of $200 whereas the 20 hours has an implicit value of $400.

Based on this...playing 20 hours over the month yields $400 of leisure time! You should be happy!

The only way this makes sense is if grinding for ISK type of play comes with a decreasing marginal rate of substitution. That is the more you grind the less enjoyment you get out of it and after a certain point there are other things you'd rather spend your leisure time doing.

Soooo...switch over and pay cash, you'll only have to work an extra 0.75 hours for the cost of a sub and you can have 9.25 hours in Eve were you wont have to be grinding (nearly as much at any rate)...which presumably would provide an even higher level of utility (enjoyment).

Thus, I find the claims that lowering the PLEX price somehow will bring back players completely and totally unconvincing, generally speaking. The OP given his circumstances may have a fixed income which could put a hard constraint on switching over to paying his subs with cash difficult if not impossible. However, I don't think the bulk of the Eve population falls into that category.


I have desperately struggled not to answer, but please, for the good of the world, do not turn your Armchair economics hobby into a profession.


Coming from you that is the highest of praise. Considering you get everything exactly backwards.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#971 - 2015-10-05 01:04:40 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
As an economist I find the complaints about higher PLEX prices discouraging people from keeping their accounts subbed perplexing.

To make some of the numbers simple, assume the RL cost of a PLEX is $20.

Assume that at some point back in time our average player "paid" 10 hours of grinding to afford his PLEX via ISK. Now, the cost is 20 hours for the same PLEX. Further, assume the average player has income of $20/hour.

What I find perplexing is this...1 hour or RL work would be enough to buy that PLEX. If the cost of paying for a sub via credit card is $15 you could trade 0.75 hours of RL work for the same 30 days.

From standard plain old vanilla neo-classical economics the labor-leisure trade off implies that a person is indifferent between an extra hour leisure or the additional $20 of income from working. This implies that leisure has a value of $20/hour.

Here is the problem: the 10 hours has an implicit value of $200 whereas the 20 hours has an implicit value of $400.

Based on this...playing 20 hours over the month yields $400 of leisure time! You should be happy!

The only way this makes sense is if grinding for ISK type of play comes with a decreasing marginal rate of substitution. That is the more you grind the less enjoyment you get out of it and after a certain point there are other things you'd rather spend your leisure time doing.

Soooo...switch over and pay cash, you'll only have to work an extra 0.75 hours for the cost of a sub and you can have 9.25 hours in Eve were you wont have to be grinding (nearly as much at any rate)...which presumably would provide an even higher level of utility (enjoyment).

Thus, I find the claims that lowering the PLEX price somehow will bring back players completely and totally unconvincing, generally speaking. The OP given his circumstances may have a fixed income which could put a hard constraint on switching over to paying his subs with cash difficult if not impossible. However, I don't think the bulk of the Eve population falls into that category.


Two problems with this analysis (under your assumption that someone has a job paying USD 20 an hour; probably a fair assumption for many EVE players)

- Most people would *much* rather be doing something 'grindy' in EVE than at work
- Most jobs do not scale as easily as that. Some do, but most people don't control how many hours they work.

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Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#972 - 2015-10-05 01:27:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Teckos Pech
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:

Two problems with this analysis (under your assumption that someone has a job paying USD 20 an hour; probably a fair assumption for many EVE players)

- Most people would *much* rather be doing something 'grindy' in EVE than at work
- Most jobs do not scale as easily as that. Some do, but most people don't control how many hours they work.


Then why complain when they have more grinding as PLEX prices go up? Rejoice, you get to do something you apparently like? Personally, I think that assumption/view is wrong. That after a certain point the "fun" of grinding is not as much fun as doing something else like reading, going to a movie, fishing, going to the bar with some friends, going golfing, etc.

The point about working for an extra hour or 0.75 hours or whatever is that a much smaller fraction of your time can be used to pay for your sub. Or to put it differently if you are grinding 20 hours for a $20 it implies an hourly wage of about $1. Granted to some extent grinding can be fun, but I'd argue that the fun factor declines the more you do it.

As for the assumptions about pay, it was just to make the numbers a bit easier to see the logic--i.e. it was a simplifying assumption, but converting everything to variables and relying on some basic algebra would not really change the conclusions, IMO.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
motie one
Secret Passage
#973 - 2015-10-05 09:38:06 UTC  |  Edited by: motie one
Teckos Pech wrote:
motie one wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
As an economist I find the complaints about higher PLEX prices discouraging people from keeping their accounts subbed perplexing.

To make some of the numbers simple, assume the RL cost of a PLEX is $20.

Assume that at some point back in time our average player "paid" 10 hours of grinding to afford his PLEX via ISK. Now, the cost is 20 hours for the same PLEX. Further, assume the average player has income of $20/hour.

What I find perplexing is this...1 hour or RL work would be enough to buy that PLEX. If the cost of paying for a sub via credit card is $15 you could trade 0.75 hours of RL work for the same 30 days.

From standard plain old vanilla neo-classical economics the labor-leisure trade off implies that a person is indifferent between an extra hour leisure or the additional $20 of income from working. This implies that leisure has a value of $20/hour.

Here is the problem: the 10 hours has an implicit value of $200 whereas the 20 hours has an implicit value of $400.

Based on this...playing 20 hours over the month yields $400 of leisure time! You should be happy!

The only way this makes sense is if grinding for ISK type of play comes with a decreasing marginal rate of substitution. That is the more you grind the less enjoyment you get out of it and after a certain point there are other things you'd rather spend your leisure time doing.

Soooo...switch over and pay cash, you'll only have to work an extra 0.75 hours for the cost of a sub and you can have 9.25 hours in Eve were you wont have to be grinding (nearly as much at any rate)...which presumably would provide an even higher level of utility (enjoyment).

Thus, I find the claims that lowering the PLEX price somehow will bring back players completely and totally unconvincing, generally speaking. The OP given his circumstances may have a fixed income which could put a hard constraint on switching over to paying his subs with cash difficult if not impossible. However, I don't think the bulk of the Eve population falls into that category.


I have desperately struggled not to answer, but please, for the good of the world, do not turn your Armchair economics hobby into a profession.


Coming from you that is the highest of praise. Considering you get everything exactly backwards.


My response, is no different than if I was a doctor, who witnessed a well meaning amateur, (whilst claiming to be a Doctor) making a wildly inaccurate diagnosis, and recommending a positively harmful treatment. One would feel a responsibility to point such a matter out before gullible "patients" ended up damaged by it.
Please add a disclaimer to your claims to be an economist, explaining that you read a few books, and find the subject fun.
Thank you, this will enable readers to assign the proper value to your speculations, and note that throwing in a few parroted phrases, and from post to post, dropping in a couple of famous names does not suddenly give your efforts credibility.

Of course, this is a game, you are free to imagine any career you wish, but keep it in game for the sake of others?
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#974 - 2015-10-05 10:47:58 UTC
motie one wrote:
My response, is no different than if I was a doctor

Quick, run, before he puts the leeches on you!
Aoife Fraoch
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#975 - 2015-10-05 11:06:33 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
motie one wrote:
My response, is no different than if I was a doctor

Quick, run, before he puts the leeches on you!


Leeches implies that at least once, his level of knowledge was considered adequate. Perhaps 'run before he gets out his crystals'? Though I hope motie doesn't stop, this is comedy gold.
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#976 - 2015-10-05 11:15:16 UTC
Aoife Fraoch wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
motie one wrote:
My response, is no different than if I was a doctor

Quick, run, before he puts the leeches on you!
Leeches implies that at least once, his level of knowledge was considered adequate. Perhaps 'run before he gets out his crystals'? Though I hope motie doesn't stop, this is comedy gold.

Maybe striking him repeatedly with a willow branch will cure him of this malady?
Aoife Fraoch
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#977 - 2015-10-05 11:25:18 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
Aoife Fraoch wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
motie one wrote:
My response, is no different than if I was a doctor

Quick, run, before he puts the leeches on you!
Leeches implies that at least once, his level of knowledge was considered adequate. Perhaps 'run before he gets out his crystals'? Though I hope motie doesn't stop, this is comedy gold.

Maybe striking him repeatedly with a willow branch will cure him of this malady?


And if not trepanning is still an option.
motie one
Secret Passage
#978 - 2015-10-05 11:39:37 UTC  |  Edited by: motie one
Of course, we will never see how many trusting Patients, are left "sick broken husks." That's the problem with People Pretending to be Doctors, or in this case Economists. There is always someone who falls for a credible sounding imposter.

Ah well, shame to pop someone's illusions but it's for the best.
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#979 - 2015-10-05 13:19:50 UTC
The PLEX sale has ended.
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#980 - 2015-10-05 15:09:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Bad Bobby
Bad Bobby wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
1,174 Sell / 1,126 Buy atm

The combination of the CCP intervention at the end of last week and the ongoing PLEX sale appears to be having some effect. We've seen this before though and it will only be temporary.

I've already called the current stable price of plex at ~1.1B and I expect to see that rise to ~1.2B once these downward pressures have passed. It will be interesting to see if it falls bellow 1.1B this week, it will be a buying opportunity if it does.

1,129 Sell / 1,104 Buy atm

PLEX sale still going strong. Looking good to dip bellow 1.1B during the next few days. As with all previous PLEX sales, the price will bounce back up as soon as the sale is over, so when it goes below 1.1B you should be buying ready to cash in post sale.

1,110 Sell / 1,080 Buy atm

PLEX sale still going. Buy, buy, buy!

1,112 Sell / 1,096 Buy atm

1,144 Sell / 1,135 Buy atm

PLEX sale over. Last chance to buy low.

I'm personally switching back from flipping to speculating now.