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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#941 - 2015-10-04 16:23:26 UTC
motie one wrote:
Bobby? Not so much that it counts.
So now I'm incompetent as well as an evil imbecile? This is getting better.

motie one wrote:
Others? One would be naive not to know that.
So you know that these evil imbeciles exist?
motie one
Secret Passage
#942 - 2015-10-04 16:27:09 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
motie one wrote:
Bobby? Not so much that it counts.
So now I'm incompetent as well as an evil imbecile? This is getting better.

motie one wrote:
Others? One would be naive not to know that.
So you know that these evil imbeciles exist?



Bobby If you had any capability to extract meaning from words, you should know precisely my opinion.
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#943 - 2015-10-04 16:36:55 UTC
motie one wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
motie one wrote:
Bobby? Not so much that it counts.
So now I'm incompetent as well as an evil imbecile? This is getting better.

motie one wrote:
Others? One would be naive not to know that.
So you know that these evil imbeciles exist?

Bobby If you had any capability to extract meaning from words, you should know precisely my opinion.

...and I'm illiterate too?
motie one
Secret Passage
#944 - 2015-10-04 16:40:24 UTC  |  Edited by: motie one
Bad Bobby wrote:
motie one wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
motie one wrote:
Bobby? Not so much that it counts.
So now I'm incompetent as well as an evil imbecile? This is getting better.

motie one wrote:
Others? One would be naive not to know that.
So you know that these evil imbeciles exist?

Bobby If you had any capability to extract meaning from words, you should know precisely my opinion.

...and I'm illiterate too?


I have no issue with you extracting profit from the gullible, I do take slight exception though, to the level of arrogance, that believes everyone is so easily manipulated.

Possibly this thread should get back to the subject of plex and not how others see you? Interesting as that no doubt is?
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#945 - 2015-10-04 16:46:03 UTC
motie one wrote:
Possibly this thread should get back to the subject of plex and not how others see you?

No this thread should totally be about me.
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#946 - 2015-10-04 16:46:47 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
motie one wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
motie one wrote:
Bobby? Not so much that it counts.
So now I'm incompetent as well as an evil imbecile? This is getting better.

motie one wrote:
Others? One would be naive not to know that.
So you know that these evil imbeciles exist?

Bobby If you had any capability to extract meaning from words, you should know precisely my opinion.

...and I'm illiterate too?


It's dangerous to go alone! Take this.

Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#947 - 2015-10-04 16:49:26 UTC
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
It's dangerous to go alone! Take this.

<3
motie one
Secret Passage
#948 - 2015-10-04 16:52:27 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
motie one wrote:
Possibly this thread should get back to the subject of plex and not how others see you?

No this thread should totally be about me.



Nice to see the Eve O forums continuing to provide interesting and worthwhile discussion.Roll
I LIKE IT
HIGH RISK INVESTMENT
#949 - 2015-10-04 16:52:32 UTC
I LIKE IT! ISK SENT!
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#950 - 2015-10-04 16:54:02 UTC
motie one wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
motie one wrote:
Possibly this thread should get back to the subject of plex and not how others see you?

No this thread should totally be about me.
Nice to see the Eve O forums continuing to provide interesting and worthwhile discussion.Roll

Sorry I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.
Gadolf Agalder
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#951 - 2015-10-04 17:22:00 UTC
Confirmed that it costs more to drag 2 PLEx from the Login Client over to a pilot docked in station 2 jumps away from Jita IV-4 Nav.

However, it worked the first time around, although I heard a targeting sound trying to scan my cargo on exit.
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#952 - 2015-10-04 17:36:15 UTC
Gadolf Agalder wrote:
Confirmed that it costs more to drag 2 PLEx from the Login Client over to a pilot docked in station 2 jumps away from Jita IV-4 Nav.

However, it worked the first time around, although I heard a targeting sound trying to scan my cargo on exit.

Are you telling me that you are actually moving plex away from Jita 4-4?

May I ask why?
motie one
Secret Passage
#953 - 2015-10-04 17:43:52 UTC
Gadolf Agalder wrote:
Confirmed that it costs more to drag 2 PLEx from the Login Client over to a pilot docked in station 2 jumps away from Jita IV-4 Nav.

However, it worked the first time around, although I heard a targeting sound trying to scan my cargo on exit.


Shudder!
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
#954 - 2015-10-04 17:44:17 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
Gadolf Agalder wrote:
Confirmed that it costs more to drag 2 PLEx from the Login Client over to a pilot docked in station 2 jumps away from Jita IV-4 Nav.

However, it worked the first time around, although I heard a targeting sound trying to scan my cargo on exit.

Are you telling me that you are actually moving plex away from Jita 4-4?

May I ask why?

No , actually, as you can read, he was moving it TO Jita 4-4.
Not AWAY From as you suggested.

Builds ship in empty Quafe bottle.

Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#955 - 2015-10-04 17:45:20 UTC
Buzz Orti wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
Gadolf Agalder wrote:
Confirmed that it costs more to drag 2 PLEx from the Login Client over to a pilot docked in station 2 jumps away from Jita IV-4 Nav.

However, it worked the first time around, although I heard a targeting sound trying to scan my cargo on exit.

Are you telling me that you are actually moving plex away from Jita 4-4?

May I ask why?

No , actually, as you can read, he was moving it TO Jita 4-4.
Not AWAY From as you suggested.

Erm?

Gadolf Agalder
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#956 - 2015-10-04 17:52:53 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
Buzz Orti wrote:
...to a pilot docked in station 2 jumps away from Jita IV-4 Nav.

....

...
May I ask why?

Erm?


The reason why is because I thought that it was going to let me move the PLEx to a station from the ingame Redeem option, rather than making them Station Bound after dragging the items from the Login client.

It is not so, I have screenshots as well, it clearly was bound to the station the piiot was docked in.

http://imgur.com/3LjkuuX

The PLEx is in station near Jita 2 jumps away, if you tried to spied on the location, it's right there.
There is no difference except for the second time there would be a similar mistake by me.

Plus, you also spy on the name of the pilot.

And no, I didn't use the Ibis to transport those high worth items...
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#957 - 2015-10-04 17:59:58 UTC
Gadolf Agalder wrote:
The reason why is because I thought that it was going to let me move the PLEx to a station from the ingame Redeem option, rather than making them Station Bound after dragging the items from the Login client.

That doesn't explain why you would want to move them.

You can apply them to a pilot regardless of where the PLEX and the pilot are located, so there is no need to move them away from Jita 4-4.
motie one
Secret Passage
#958 - 2015-10-04 18:03:01 UTC
Gadolf Agalder wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
Buzz Orti wrote:
...to a pilot docked in station 2 jumps away from Jita IV-4 Nav.

....

...
May I ask why?

Erm?


The reason why is because I thought that it was going to let me move the PLEx to a station from the ingame Redeem option, rather than making them Station Bound after dragging the items from the Login client.

It is not so, I have screenshots as well, it clearly was bound to the station the piiot was docked in.

http://imgur.com/3LjkuuX

The PLEx is in station near Jita 2 jumps away, if you tried to spied on the location, it's right there.
There is no difference except for the second time there would be a similar mistake by me.

Plus, you also spy on the name of the pilot.

And no, I didn't use the Ibis to transport those high worth items...


So you were moving them to sell for the best price?
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#959 - 2015-10-04 18:03:56 UTC
motie one wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
motie one wrote:

For those who argue that high exchange values drives rw plex sales, so that must be great for Great for CCP? remember that the botters and RMT players will not have disappeared.




Yes, and the lower the ISK price of PLEX the better it is for RMTers. Roll


Hopefully, you read the sentence that followed this where that ^^(your reply) was clearly shown to be a falsehood, if not an actual deliberate lie designed to mask their actions and motivations? so this reply makes sense to you, (unless you were Just looking for words to clip out without actually reading or understanding the post?)

Otherwise, Clearly you have not got the message that that propaganda has been discredited?

News flash:- High Plex to ISK redemption rates drive RMT sellers sales! (Who would have guessed?Roll)

So now that statement you proposed, repeated ad infinitum almost as a universal truth, until people started to believe it, has been publicly Exposed as a lie, literally a cover for RMTers actions, new Propaganda will need to be written by the RMTers, to be repeated by the gullible at every opportunity.

CCP understand, are not gullible, have seen through the clumsy lies, and are on to them, and Know EXACTLY what they are doing.


So Assuming, you read it and the little Roll was intended as a double meaning, ironic, self deprecating attempt at humour, but just not done that clearly, here is a reply.

If not jump straight to the last sentence.

If you feed rats, you soon find them crawling all over your living room.
Who would you rather CCP support, RMTers or Players?

When Plex sells in game, at a price that is not a banquet for the "rats", and still desireable enough that CCP makes a good income, Traders have a commodity in good supply and demand, and Players can buy it for isk for fair labour.

Then Plex is good, fair and functional.

If it merely plays to RMTers and speculators, both long and short term, and creates a feeding frenzy where traders drive the price to more and more unrealistic levels, and end users cease to even consider it as something that they can actually use.

Then plex is actually something harmful, and damaging, at so many levels.

I do not believe that that can, or will continue. It will either be steered back into a healthy state, or there will be an almighty correction.

Even a Blind rat, nailed in a barrel, and placed in a dark cave, should be able to see that the money river is going to and is beginning to run dry.

You of course have the right to continue in your beliefs, in spite of everything.


Motie, once again, you have it completely backwards. If I want to "buy ISK" broadly speaking I can:

A. Buy just over a billion ISK legally and risk nothing in terms of my account status or the balance of my wallet.
B. Buy 1 billion ISK illegally and risk a ban and having my wallet drained, possibly set negative.

Which is better?

In fact, the higher the price of PLEX in option A, the better and better that deal looks. More ISK zero risk.

To claim otherwise is simply pure idiocy.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online

Gadolf Agalder
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#960 - 2015-10-04 18:04:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Gadolf Agalder
Bad Bobby wrote:
Gadolf Agalder wrote:
The reason why is because I thought that it was going to let me move the PLEx to a station from the ingame Redeem option, rather than making them Station Bound after dragging the items from the Login client.

That doesn't explain why you would want to move them.

You can apply them to a pilot regardless of where the PLEX and the pilot are located, so there is no need to move them away from Jita 4-4.

But they never were in Jita in the first place.
How can it even be scientifically possible to move them from somewhere they were never at and are not at?

That is completely illogical.

Secondly, once the PLEx are bound to a station by the redeem options, they cannot be moved except otherwise ingame.
They can be moved back to the Redeem screen to have them redeemed to other pilots on the same account.
However, that will not allow you to move the PLEx.


motie:
Not for the highest price because nobody buys PLEx from Station A.
I could put a sell order but I didn't try to put a sell order.
I may have gotten more and I could try to do that.
That wasn't my intention.
I only relied on the buy offer.



Post-scriptum:
I am now setting Jump Clones to trading stations and will also add more to Oursa.
I have enough pilots to have one in all High-sec regions and some low-sec and null-sec regions.
I want to make traders to be in the Trading Hubs and some Mission Hubs.
Then, I may try PvP Hubs.

I'm also planning to make an unpublished list of Jump Freighter routes of nearby systems for the Trading Hubs or other trading stations.


- - -
Perhaps you're missing the point that I didn't want to move them.
Perhaps you're missing the point that I made an error in dragging the PLEx to a pilot from the Login client rather than wait until I would be docked in the proper station.

One reason is because that if you get a PLEx from a Buddy Program reward, you cannot get the PLEx Redeemed until Claimed from the Account Management system.

Perhaps you're missing the point that if I didn't move them, that I could not have traded them for the current buy offer of 1.145m ISK.
I also have screenshots of the tax I paid.

I have to go buy a 1.89 GHz (instead of the required 2.0 Ghz) computer for $89 which will let me run the EVE Market with reduced graphic settings to speed up performance.


+
My current market offers are:
Iteron Mark V , volume 20k m3
Buy 3 @ 1,447,999ISK; Sell @ 1,620,000ISK (11.9%)
From Jita to Amarr

And 2ndly,
Osprey Navy Issue , volume 10k m3
Buy 1 @ 64,799,975ISK; Sell @ 70,600,100ISK (9.0%)
From Jita to Dodixie


However, I don't have the time to set them up.

I also have to liquidate 6 units of something else which were sold before I could transfer them back to market at profit.
I lose around 1.5% on those 6 items at 7.5% total.
Not including a potential 10m ISK extra hauling costs.