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just to keep that thread away from stupid price listings, I have a question:

Dear Bobby, what is the bottom price do you expect in this round of the PLEX match?

And why? Is that ~200 buy orders yours?

Hopefully, you read the sentence that followed this where that ^^(your reply) was clearly shown to be a falsehood, if not an actual deliberate lie designed to mask their actions and motivations? so this reply makes sense to you, (unless you were Just looking for words to clip out without actually reading or understanding the post?)

Otherwise, Clearly you have not got the message that that propaganda has been discredited?

News flash:- High Plex to ISK redemption rates drive RMT sellers sales! (Who would have guessed?)

So now that statement you proposed, repeated ad infinitum almost as a universal truth, until people started to believe it, has been publicly Exposed as a lie, literally a cover for RMTers actions, new Propaganda will need to be written by the RMTers, to be repeated by the gullible at every opportunity.

CCP understand, are not gullible, have seen through the clumsy lies, and are on to them, and Know EXACTLY what they are doing.


So Assuming, you read it and the little was intended as a double meaning, ironic, self deprecating attempt at humour, but just not done that clearly, here is a reply.

If not jump straight to the last sentence.

If you feed rats, you soon find them crawling all over your living room.
Who would you rather CCP support, RMTers or Players?

When Plex sells in game, at a price that is not a banquet for the "rats", and still desireable enough that CCP makes a good income, Traders have a commodity in good supply and demand, and Players can buy it for isk for fair labour.

Then Plex is good, fair and functional.

If it merely plays to RMTers and speculators, both long and short term, and creates a feeding frenzy where traders drive the price to more and more unrealistic levels, and end users cease to even consider it as something that they can actually use.

Then plex is actually something harmful, and damaging, at so many levels.

I do not believe that that can, or will continue. It will either be steered back into a healthy state, or there will be an almighty correction.

Even a Blind rat, nailed in a barrel, and placed in a dark cave, should be able to see that the money river is going to and is beginning to run dry.

You of course have the right to continue in your beliefs, in spite of everything.

1,153 Sell / 1,135 Buy atm

It's not what's going on in the buy orders that is important right now. I could do with keeping the price down for at least another day, so feel free to continue the deranged tinfoil doomsaying. Alternatively: buy, buy, buy!

That is what I said before.

Remember that you are the one that thinks propping up PLEX prices makes sense, I'm the one that thinks anyone doing so is an idiot.

Why would I be holding a position?

Yes, I am sure there are a lot of factors and variables to consider, but having RMTers acting as competiition, that CCP effectively has to pay the costs of, must be very frustrating. Possibly the disparity in exchange rates/ value in country relative to living costs, may mean that when Plex has a high in game value that people want plex for cash, and the RMTers can get an increased number of customers and undercut CCP whilst still being highly profitable in local terms. I have not kept up on the rouble exchange rate, or other appropriate currencies, so I do not know if that is the direction they are coming from, there may be also more pressure on purchasers to take risks, but either way, RMTers are acting as competition for CCP even if CCP still make some money from Plex sales.
Clearly not a situation that CCP will want to encourage.

For someone who seems to have reasonable market insight, it is surprising how you so fail to understand the motivations of those you deal with with many of your transactions, seeing Plex as purely a token to keep score,of your trading gains, clearly blinds you to the wider aspects.

I'll leave it at that.
It is so much easier, not to see the obvious.
I will leave you with your world view, as it is clearly hard for you to imagine otherwise, and possibly make you a less effective trader if you had to consider the whole picture.

There is more than enough already posted as to explanations and justifications for my comments.
A bit too much for you to reduce to a dismissive one line attack. Do you really believe readers are that stupid? And that would work?

You are more than free to hide beneath a towel and say all is well, and nothing to see here move along.
After all, If you can't see it it can't hurt you?

I'll just post this.
http://h2g2.com/entry/A387029

Maybe it works out for you?

I have often heard that one should not assume malice or blatent self interest when stupidity is an option.
But in many ways you seem to be intelligent?
So I will keep an open mind.

Well, all points are raised, and discussed in previously published posts.
I recommend that If you have any interest whatsoever, in understanding them, you should attempt to read them.
As opposed to just looking for the odd line you can snip out, and quote out of context.

But as I do not believe you have such an interest, and are simply trying to supress any information or view that upsets your tidy little "unofficial" trading cartel there is not much point even bringing your attention to them.

But of course you could be right, Everything is wonderful! All is right with the world, and Everyone should buy as many plex as they can beg borrow or steal to afford.

And we can all dance hand in hand happily into the rosy future.


>>insert amazing amount of sarcasm emoji here<<

Bobby? Not so much that it counts in the big scheme of things.

Others? One would be naive not to know that.