EVE New Citizens Q&A

Missiles do have a range (determined by their flight time * speed. They do function similarly to guns - you have short range and long range versions, they do less damage to small ships and to fast ships, and they are expended similarly to gun ammo.

Missiles have two advantages: they don't use capacitor energy to fire, and you can load whichever missile fits the target's resistance weakness. Also, they track ships based on raw speed rather than orbit speed, so a frigate that gets close to avoid your guns tracking will still get hit by your missiles.

The disadvantage of missiles is that it takes time for them to travel to the target; you can't really alpha-strike with them, and if all your gun buddies destroy the target before your missiles even reach it, that doesn't look good on the damage meters.

Caldari ships that use missiles also have the capability to be "easy mode." You can fit the ship with shield resistances and passive shield recharge boosters, so the shields repair themselves automatically and you only need to manage 1 button: the "fire ze missiles" button (F1).

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EDIT: Turrets only dealing certain damage types isn't really an issue. When you fit your ship for PVP, you don't really know what you'll be facing... missiles, drones, lasers, projectiles... probably all of these. It's equally as likely that you'll be hit with EM, Thermal, Kinetic, or Explosive damage, or combinations, so your best bet for survival is to Omni-tank (maximize ALL your resists equally). Everybody omni-tanks. So as a result, what damage type you do with the guns doesn't really matter.

Of course, if you have intel (from a spy) that your enemy is bringing Amarr ships... then yeah, tank EM and Thermal, if you really really trust that spy. But typically the intel is unreliable most of the time.

PVE mission damage is known (you can look up either the mission by name, or the NPC rat name). And, Amarr mission rats are vulnerable to lasers (EM, Thermal), Gallente rats to hybrids (thermal, kinetic), and so on. So the guns are quite effective on the NPC's you're sent to kill.

Plus the Quafe skin looks amazing with that pale blue.

The Uni is useful for many things but their fits tend to be terrible, not because they're aimed at low SP players but because the fits are just bad most of the time.


There's a few things you need to know about PVE ships in general and drone ships in particular:

- it makes no sense to use a plate in a PVE fit, there are some very niche very specialised situations (which you won't be in) where they have a role but normally a plate is a waste of a slot

- if you fly a drone ship then sentries will be your bread and butter for pve (and fleet PVP as well), you should get them asap as they make it all a whole lot better. They do instant high damage at long ranges and the only times you'll field lights is if they're surrounding you

- you can put weapons on a drone ship but they won't get any real augmentation, take up fitting and cap and might because of that force you to gimp the rest of your fit and thus your main weapon system. If that is the case then simply don't fit weapons, you can use the high slots for other useful stuff anyway.




Here's a basic pve fit, just translate to named or T2 modules where you can. The Gallente equivalent (Myrmidon) has a similar fit but can field one more sentry making its main dps higher.



[Prophecy, PVE Template EM-Thermal]
Medium Armor Repairer I
Armor EM Hardener I
Armor Thermic Hardener I
Armor Thermic Hardener I
Drone Damage Amplifier I
Drone Damage Amplifier I
Drone Damage Amplifier I

10MN Afterburner I
Medium Micro Jump Drive
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I, Optimal Range Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I, Tracking Speed Script

Civilian Gatling Pulse Laser, Civilian Pulse Crystal
Medium Nosferatu I
Medium Nosferatu I
Small Tractor Beam I
Drone Link Augmentor I

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I

Curator I x3
Garde I x3
Hobgoblin I x5
Hammerhead I x5

How you pilot your ship has a lot to do with how you apply damage or if you apply damage with turrets. This is, in my opinion, what separates guns from drones or missiles.

Yes skill points matter more on turrets or drones for how or if you apply damage but so does your piloting. Early on in the game I used to think my skill points were the problem when using turrets and missing all the time. Years later when I started a fresh alt I realized that a lot of it was me not knowing how to fly my ship back then as I could hit stuff with lower skill points on the new alt.

A few things to keep in mind is first you need to understand gunnery and tracking if you want to do combat in this game and that is true even if you never sit your butt inside a turret based hull. Second all the various gunnery skills stack on top of each other and your hits get literally exponentially better as a result. i.e. the better that you track the easier it is to hit, the further out the target is the easier that they are to track so tracking increases your hits and more optimal pushes out where your falloff starts and more falloff pushes out where you can hit from etc....

Another important point is that I use multiple tracking mods on pretty much every turret based platform that I fly. Even my domi has 2 drone tracking links.

My advice. Ditch battleships all together. if you want a mission boat, get a gila. It will tank the rooms better, has great dps and projection and is not skill intensive to get into. it is a little more expensive then t1 battleships though.

I am still going with the battle ships. I have nothing against frigates but I rather be able to tank better. Right now I am training for domnix, and armegeddon. Now just need to train up the correct skills.

I wss running World Collide in dual rep Myrmidon and it wss before MJD release

1) In PvP ... everyone omni tanks and fills any holes in their resistance profiles first.

2) In PvE low SP players are far better fitting mission specific hardeners based on either the known damage profile of the enemies or looking the mission up on EVE Survival.

3) In PvE at higher SP many players eventually switch from mission specific to omni tanking for the convenience and time savings.


I suspect the time to start thinking about omni tank in PvE is the point where you find you make more ISK/hour by blitzing and ignoring loot/salvage and warping the instant mission complete trigger is down.

It depends.

The gist of Omni-tanking is to get your resistances as even as possible. You can complish this through single-resistance platings, membranes, hardeners, rigs, or just loading up on Omni-platings/membranes/hardeners

Do note though that Omni-tanks tend to have lower overall resistances against specific damage types compared to min/maxed single or double resistance fitted ships.
This means you will be less efficient when you are tanking against an NPCs with a known damage profile (which is all NPCs except Sleepers, Drifters, and Incursion Sansha).

tbh you don't need to be "wallnut" hard. For example best omni-tank ship is Gnosis. But you don't need your Dominix be the same.
DCU, two specific hardeners + reactive armor hardener would perfectly work and support your local Repper since you wouldn't be passive armor tank missions.