EVE New Citizens Q&A

Not sure what the Opportunities system rewards, but the old "Career" agents are still available in the newbie stations, and doing their combined sets of missions gives 10 million ISK in free skills, ships, and actual cash. You can go from station to station and repeat the career missions each time.

Then, when you get tired of that, the Sisters of EVE story arc gives at least another 10 million.

So, 400k ISK, pfft.

because it is tradition! and meh, making isk isn't all that hard, as said earlier there is a pretty easy way to go progress.

Probably for the same reason its good for your teenage kids to get an after school job even when you could just hand them the same money without noticing.

You could make 400,000 ISK immediately just by flying one of the "free" career agent ships a few jumps away from the school and selling it. (market hint do not sell those free ships to buy orders at the school itself you will get nothing for them)

Thanks grandpa, actually was waiting for you

I have to admit that you've doing doing well cause you know what to do. But from the newbie perspectives, who haas no knowledge and trading skills, that's hardly achievable on very first steps.

The whole point is, these 5k are obvious legacy from the past and it is time to look and decide to remove them or ...

would you be happier if all people started the game with 100m SP and 1trillion in the wallet?

Seriously, its CCP's game they will do whatever they want. A select few complaining about it does nothing, and whenever if seen a post of yours its always complaining.

So please tell us what, as a new player, you'd spend that 500,000 isk on. Personally, I'd spend it on ships I could barely sit in and skillbooks I would get for free later in the tutorial. Also tell us what you'd do with no isk at all, given the state of the beginner tutorials as they are right now. They grant very little isk on completion and some of them do require use of the marketplace. Remember, you're a new player in this situation, not you -- a veteran player complaining in the EVE New Citizens Q&A instead of General where a thread like this actually belongs.

Relative to a player just starting with no prior experience to this game at all, yes, you are.


So how are you, as a brand new player, to know about this "Venture" and how to fit one to make more than a measly paltry amount of pocket change with that Civilian Miner you have when Miner Is (or whatever they're called cost a couple of thousand ISK that you don't have?

Basically you're one of those people who want all conveniences for new players removed, I see, even the token amount of ISK granted them. I mean, come on, 5,000 ISK? You're complaining about 5,000 ISK?

This game is already struggling a bit as can be seen by declining numbers on TQ and you're here suggesting that we tell new players "Welcome to the game. Now go figure out how to grind ISK before you can learn to do anything fun."

*golf clap*

The 5,000 ISK situation does suck, but grinding ISK (gold, credits) is a core task in most MMO's. And you start with 1 copper / 1 credit. In other MMO's you also have to grind XP to level up, don't have to do that here, the skillpoints just happen.

The game has plenty of friendly players in the newbie systems, on the forums here, and in the in-game Help and Corp channels. Also there are plenty of articles on the internet with useful info. Finally, there are player organizations such as EVE University, RvB, and others, that provide volunteer help.

So if you're a normal person and can say "Hello" and ask your questions, you'll make it as a newbie. As mentioned above, Career missions give 10 million, and otherwise the most basic PVE activities (mining, exploration, etc.) reward you at 2+ million PER HOUR. Frigates cost 400k, equipment is in the 50-200k range... it's not horrible.

I wouldn't mind to have spare one later on if i decide to try tutorials.. Or you think all newbies has to run through tutorials right from the start?