Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Just cause the amount of people asking for free SP is too damn high in here.

Only give newly created players the SP buff together with the 2 week players prior to Vanguard.

Do NOT give unallocated SP to the rest of the EvE population. Getting newer players more quickly past some fundamental skills everyone should have, is not the same as having unallocated skill points that you can use for anything.

It can be argued that the players not within the 2 week period, should get the their skills adjusted to the new minimum. But that is not that same as giving all players a free amount of SP.

I honestly hope CCP will show restraint and push the change through as described in the OP, and not try to satisfy what is a clear attempt at some easy free SP points.

Using that methodology no character created before the patch goes live should receive the extra sp.

While I'm totally for increasing a newbro's starting SP, I think the path you've chosen isn't the best one.

When I first started a decade ago, I was a able to indirectly determine my starting skills by the choices I made during the character creation process. I started heavily combat oriented, just as I wanted to be. I didn't have "wasted" SP in industry or trade or w/e. This was a positive experience as a new player.

You now start every single player out the same, with the same default set of skills, like a prepackaged commodity, forcing their starting SP to be spread out amongst all the areas rather than the ones the player may actually want. This is too much like real life where I have to take classes at the uni that I have no interest in in order to get the degree in what I actually want to do.

Instead I would have implemented a system during character creation that let a player choose the areas they wanted to focus in. If a player was unsure they could still choose to be a generalist.



Very this.

You could implement it as an opportunity.

Opportunity: Getting your Pilot's License
Obtain a Pilot's License EXtension (PLEX) or purchase a subscription to obtain a one-time per account allotment of 300,000 freely allocatable skill points.

I am okay with them going to 500k skill points. I don't see any reason to go higher than that. I would take the extra 150k sp and take the missile operation skill to 4 and get the missile support skills to at least level 1, just like what they propose for gunnery. Then take the 75-100k left over and let them distribute it however they wish. I saw where someone said that they could choose from different packs and that would determine what skills they get, whether they want pvp, missioning, mining, hauling/trading, etc.

It could be part of the character creation where they determine what path they want to take, or there could be a generic path for those who do not know what direction they want to go.

Should just give everyone 300k sp for supporting your rapidly dying game.

I created my 3 new toons on the 15 exactly 2 weeks before the patch this toon Jamie stormshield, Logan stormshield will we all be covered with the 300k free sp ?


Ava stormshield
Jamie stormshield
Logan stormshield

patch was today the 29th my toons were created on the 15th thats exactly 2 weeks to the day im just curious if im coverd as its right on the day

Read the OP carefully. You will get unallocated SP points, but might take a bit before they are on your character. Basically, you get the extra SP, if you created your character within the 2 weeks from the implementation of Vanguard.

Not only would I give starting characters the choice of some "presets" for SP distribution, but I would allow them to then redistribute and fine-tune manually, for those who want it. The same way any other RPG / MMO does it.

Furthermore, from someone who is heavily involved in the broader gaming community, the biggest hurdle I have to get people onto EvE is progression speed.
I find it hilarious that after 10+ years of playing you can't have a maxed character yet. That's idiotic, to say the least.
I believe that after 12-18 months you character should be able to fly about any one race to near perfection (I mean V skills, yes), including core skills and support skills. Make it another 6-12 months (I would lean towards 6-9) for crosstraining into an entirely new race to perfection.
Again, this would include things such as racial carrier V, dreads, etc.
Your further progression of "endgame" would be game centric only, and ISK.

I barely know any game in which you aren't able to be "maxed" within at least 1 year, make it two, if it's a korean grindfest.
The focus then is entirely on endgame activities.
In Eve, this would be flying ships and doing your things.
I would hate to be a new player in Eve, and CCP is literally BAD at getting new players into the game and is really catering to bittervets, wannabe vets to not lose more of existing active accounts.

For all those "old toons", your toons don't get worse, so no need to whine. they'll be just as good.
Progression hurdles will still be ISK (skill book prices, ship prices, ship losses due to badly fitting **** they don't know how to fly yet, etc.) and maybe something you could implement on top of it, but I wouldn't see the need.

Hi, what date was the cut-off point for creating a character (and getting the 300k)?

i made my account on the 26th of September, i'm not sure where that leaves me..