Market Discussions

Lots of truth there, the only proviso I would add, is that people are reasonably willing to pay for their main as long as there is some fun, alts however, are still fun to shoot at. But without being able to redeem plex to pay for them, at a reasonable time cost, then they go. Eventually the main follows, if he has not already.

It is not reasonable for anyone to request that you voluntarily, give up a highly profitable, and well played technique, for the good of the game, as others would simply step in and all that that would result in in you losing out.

But in one form or another the unique nature of pilots services, will be clarified, and enforced if needed.
The alternative is really something that cannot persist and expand if we wish EVE to have a healthy future.

Absolutely true, Plex WAS a mechanism to allow growth into that possibility, and path for players, where one had alts soaking Up commodities from the economy.

Eve is almost impossible, at the least actively unpleasant, without either you or your friends having alts, I for one am seeing fewer and fewer friends with multiple alts. Followed, by fewer and fewer friends.

I am pretty sure we agree with the pattern, if not the route a solution should take.

There really is no argument to be made, that the reduction in the availability of redemptions at a realistically attainable and achievable rate, is seriously affecting the game. There are many other causes, but this is a significant one.

Plex was a shining example of what was special and good with EVE, widely copied, now it is a poor shadow of it's former glory.

That must be a miserable experience, my sympathies.

So back on topic.

The PLEX price is now 1184 Buy / 1206 Sell. I don't think any suggested crash is happening.

We're going to see 1.3B again, but more slowly.

We may well see 1.5B by December.

There will be the traditional slump during the holiday season.

Then in the new year PLEX prices will reach for the stars.

This is assuming that CCP don't make any fundamental changes. I'm not talking about central bank intervention, because those will happen when needed to prevent insane spikes as we have seen in the past.

I personally don't care too much if CCP does or doesn't make any fundamental changes because I'm happy with PLEX price being the price people are prepared to pay for PLEX. But you, motie one, have a desire to see some change to deal with your perceived issue. The idea of a NPC order is ridiculous and entirely the opposite of the way EVE is headed. so you should give up any hope of that or anything like it. You could however get behind more viable changes to bring about your desired lowering of the PLEX price, which would have to be something to do with account structure and subscription changes.

Personally, I'd like to see myself only have one account with all my characters on it, not 9 active accounts and 16 inactive accounts. I'd like to see the ability to pay monthly for the particular services I require from CCP. Be that the ability to train X characters on my account, the ability to log on X concurrent characters on my account or the ability to do any other thing CCP can dream up. I'd also love to see this because it would herald the end of having to pay 2 PLEX whenever I need to move a character from one of my own accounts to another of my own accounts for organisational purposes. It would also mean I'd only need one username and password rather than the dictionary of username/password pairs I currently have to manage.

If PLEX become simply the units of payment for the services you use on your account, then PLEX will be a lot better than they are now and accounts will be a lot better than they are now.

If CCP also reduce the RL currency price of Subs/PLEX, we'll probably see some, but not all, of the change you desire.

My thoughts precisely. Not least because an EVE with 1.5x players paying $10/month is substantially more resilient, attractive and entertaining than one with 1.0x players paying $15/month.

Do not be too distracted, by attributing my comments to personal desire.
I simply desire working tools.

What changes occur to restore Plex into a means of Average players gaining some benefit from it's existance, are really a matter for CCP to design, they can take the long term, if they have time and manipulate and wrangle it down to a level they deem viable, or if time is short, implement a design that MAY be similar to my suggestions or something quite different , but either way, drawing a line in the sand stating that players speculate with this commodity at their peril.

It can be argued that such behaviour is not like EVE, but in reality, it is very much so, one does not exploit clearly defined in game tools without a reaction in return. The fact that this has not been visible up to now, does not mean they will close their eyes and mouths indefinately.

All that is really needed is for CCP to state how importantly they see Plex as a tool.

I don't know, but it seems to be an assumption held by most people who think PLEX prices are too high. Personally I think it is a dumb assumption. It is dumb because it means half the Eve population is paying via PLEX with ISK, while the other half is paying via subs and also buying PLEX.

Most players will pay for their primary character with real world subs, and alts with Plex. Except many are not any more, hence the issue.

Eve without alts is very limited once you get past a certain point, and after hibernating alts the game is less fun.

Think about what happens next when the game is less fun.

Hopefully CCP have begun to ignore plex volume and taken a Long hard look at the ratio of redemptions, and are acting accordingly.

The only time a Plex has a true value to CCP, and the game, is when it is originally sold and when it is redeemed.

Perhaps CCP doesn't want alts, perhaps they want players .

Dude you get an F in time series analysis.