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Decline in numbers... starting to turn into RAPID!!!

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Market McSelling Alt
Doomheim
#1921 - 2015-09-19 01:20:16 UTC
Daniela Doran wrote:
This thread has been on page 1 for a month now. Are people really quiting this game as rapidly as this thread indicates? Everytime I Iog in, the Online numbers have been around the same as it was during the summer. Peak hours log in numbers are 32k-24k and the rest of the day it's been from 22k-14k. Those numbers have been pretty consistent for the past 6 months. I have no problem with the plex prices as long as they DON'T go above 1.5 bill. But I can't say the same for the majority. If the plex prices continues to keep rising then it's inevitable that the user base will drop due to lack of volume being purchased. In addition to this the biggest impact on the lowering user base is the new Sov mechanic which CCP is still in the early phases of revamping. Until CCP can get the new sov revamp working perfectly, I don't expect to see any rise in user base. It will remain at these levels until then as long as the prices in plex don't exceed 1.5 bill, in which case it really will start spiraling downwards to the point where CCP may no longer be able to balance the books.



Considering summer is over and we are supposed to see a spike in players online at the end of august, instead we saw another 1k player average decline from july.

So yeah, its really that bad.

CCP Quant: Of all those who logon in Eve, 1.5% do Incursions, 13.8% PVP and 19.2% run Missions while 22.4% mine.

40.7% Join a fleet. The idea that Eve is a PVP game is false, the social fabric is in Missions and Mining.
Zihao
Doomheim
#1922 - 2015-09-19 03:26:32 UTC
Where do they go, these beautiful ones?
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#1923 - 2015-09-19 08:35:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Indahmawar Fazmarai
Markus Reese wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Drago Shouna wrote:
I hope tonight's o7 show and its announcements will halt the decline a bit, along with the Citadel dev blog.


One thing is sure, they won't speed it up. The people quitting the game don't use to see that show... vºv


Will be interesting. A few, but big questions. A large part of the community is interested in drifter incursion update for sure.


The only update that could interest me with Drifter incursions is that they've moved from lowsec to some backwater highsec system, along with:

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
IF they move to highsec...
IF there's a meaningful reward...
IF there's a point (=dead drifters + rewards) to play logi for those poor devils in Amarr Navy...
IF risk/reward balances as my previous interactions or better (losses: 900 million; rewards: 150 million, fun: good enough)

...then I may bother to RP and "defend my homeland". Specially if it's viable without flying in multi-billion fits.

What I won't do is move a multi-bilion ship to low, risk being ganked or whatever, in order to earn less than a Level 4 and then lose my ship in the process. My time is more valuable than that.
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
#1924 - 2015-09-19 09:11:51 UTC
Daniela Doran wrote:
This thread has been on page 1 for a month now. Are people really quiting this game as rapidly as this thread indicates? Everytime I Iog in, the Online numbers have been around the same as it was during the summer. Peak hours log in numbers are 32k-24k and the rest of the day it's been from 22k-14k. Those numbers have been pretty consistent for the past 6 months. I have no problem with the plex prices as long as they DON'T go above 1.5 bill. But I can't say the same for the majority. If the plex prices continues to keep rising then it's inevitable that the user base will drop due to lack of volume being purchased. In addition to this the biggest impact on the lowering user base is the new Sov mechanic which CCP is still in the early phases of revamping. Until CCP can get the new sov revamp working perfectly, I don't expect to see any rise in user base. It will remain at these levels until then as long as the prices in plex don't exceed 1.5 bill, in which case it really will start spiraling downwards to the point where CCP may no longer be able to balance the books.

We went from 36k average active players to 18k in just 1 year ... thats 50% less players.
2 years ago EVE had the active player record of 65k players ... nowadays i rarely see more then 20k, except on weekends.
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1925 - 2015-09-19 09:12:34 UTC  |  Edited by: La Rynx
Daniela Doran wrote:
This thread has been on page 1 for a month now. Are people really quiting this game as rapidly as this thread indicates?


No, but there is big need to cry over PLEX beeing to expensive so that it occupies two threads!
This one is just a little cloaked.

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#1926 - 2015-09-19 09:53:37 UTC
Daniela Doran wrote:
This thread has been on page 1 for a month now. Are people really quiting this game as rapidly as this thread indicates?
No, it's been pretty constant for two months, with an ever so subtle upwards trend.
Market McSelling Alt
Doomheim
#1927 - 2015-09-19 10:00:49 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Daniela Doran wrote:
This thread has been on page 1 for a month now. Are people really quiting this game as rapidly as this thread indicates?
No, it's been pretty constant for two months, with an ever so subtle upwards trend.



In what world do you see an up trend in the picture you posted?

I see two days a week with an up trend from patch week... but even those are dead even with first week of July.

The rest of the days, Friday in particular... oh boy, me thinks you need glasses my friend.

CCP Quant: Of all those who logon in Eve, 1.5% do Incursions, 13.8% PVP and 19.2% run Missions while 22.4% mine.

40.7% Join a fleet. The idea that Eve is a PVP game is false, the social fabric is in Missions and Mining.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#1928 - 2015-09-19 10:09:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Market McSelling Alt wrote:
In what world do you see an up trend in the picture you posted?
In the world where you are literate and check the right period.

Quote:
The rest of the days, Friday in particular
You mean the day that has an ever so subtle upwards trend?
(Excel gives its trendline as y = 4.6521x - 167965)
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#1929 - 2015-09-19 10:29:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Market McSelling Alt wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Daniela Doran wrote:
This thread has been on page 1 for a month now. Are people really quiting this game as rapidly as this thread indicates?
No, it's been pretty constant for two months, with an ever so subtle upwards trend.



In what world do you see an up trend in the picture you posted?

I see two days a week with an up trend from patch week... but even those are dead even with first week of July.

The rest of the days, Friday in particular... oh boy, me thinks you need glasses my friend.

Looks to have turned around recently (since the start of July), mostly affected by the upswing on Saturday, Sunday and Monday (Monday only recent upswing) for the last couple of months and leveling off of the other days.

Will be interesting to watch and see if a more significant upward trend continues, or if it flattens and falls again.
Buoytender Bob
Ronin Exploration Mission and Mining
#1930 - 2015-09-19 17:34:34 UTC
Tippia

This isn't a "dead cat bounce", is it?

To buck the popular trend, I began to Rage Start instead of Rage Quit.

...and every time I get another piece of Carbon, I know exactly what CCP is getting this Christmas.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#1931 - 2015-09-19 17:39:24 UTC
Buoytender Bob wrote:
Tippia

This isn't a "dead cat bounce", is it?

We won't know until it sits still for long enough.
Spurty
#1932 - 2015-09-19 23:16:48 UTC
Anyone else following the "counter strike" death spiral news?

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

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Lindsey Stirling
Artemis Research And Development
#1933 - 2015-09-20 01:00:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Lindsey Stirling
-2 accounts due to insane plex prices.

no, you can't have my stuff.

flame suit on.

inb4 "its so easy to make 1.3 billion isk"
inb4 "get a job"
Zihao
Doomheim
#1934 - 2015-09-20 01:46:45 UTC
Get a job.
Zahara Cody
Imperial Corrections Service.
#1935 - 2015-09-20 01:48:31 UTC
Count my trillions out. Everything has been trashed. CCP is trash.

Hating is free, that's why poor people do it the best.
Zahara Cody
Imperial Corrections Service.
#1936 - 2015-09-20 03:43:03 UTC
CCP. Lock deez nuts.

Hating is free, that's why poor people do it the best.
Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#1937 - 2015-09-20 06:54:26 UTC
Market McSelling Alt wrote:
Daniela Doran wrote:
This thread has been on page 1 for a month now. Are people really quiting this game as rapidly as this thread indicates? Everytime I Iog in, the Online numbers have been around the same as it was during the summer. Peak hours log in numbers are 32k-24k and the rest of the day it's been from 22k-14k. Those numbers have been pretty consistent for the past 6 months. I have no problem with the plex prices as long as they DON'T go above 1.5 bill. But I can't say the same for the majority. If the plex prices continues to keep rising then it's inevitable that the user base will drop due to lack of volume being purchased. In addition to this the biggest impact on the lowering user base is the new Sov mechanic which CCP is still in the early phases of revamping. Until CCP can get the new sov revamp working perfectly, I don't expect to see any rise in user base. It will remain at these levels until then as long as the prices in plex don't exceed 1.5 bill, in which case it really will start spiraling downwards to the point where CCP may no longer be able to balance the books.



Considering summer is over and we are supposed to see a spike in players online at the end of august, instead we saw another 1k player average decline from july.

So yeah, its really that bad.


Meanwhile CCP axed like 60% of its staff already IIRC?
Tiberius Heth
Doomheim
#1938 - 2015-09-20 07:10:37 UTC
coalition clowns quitting, people closing their 17th cap alt account.

It's glorious.
Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#1939 - 2015-09-20 09:22:45 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Market McSelling Alt wrote:
Daniela Doran wrote:
This thread has been on page 1 for a month now. Are people really quiting this game as rapidly as this thread indicates? Everytime I Iog in, the Online numbers have been around the same as it was during the summer. Peak hours log in numbers are 32k-24k and the rest of the day it's been from 22k-14k. Those numbers have been pretty consistent for the past 6 months. I have no problem with the plex prices as long as they DON'T go above 1.5 bill. But I can't say the same for the majority. If the plex prices continues to keep rising then it's inevitable that the user base will drop due to lack of volume being purchased. In addition to this the biggest impact on the lowering user base is the new Sov mechanic which CCP is still in the early phases of revamping. Until CCP can get the new sov revamp working perfectly, I don't expect to see any rise in user base. It will remain at these levels until then as long as the prices in plex don't exceed 1.5 bill, in which case it really will start spiraling downwards to the point where CCP may no longer be able to balance the books.



Considering summer is over and we are supposed to see a spike in players online at the end of august, instead we saw another 1k player average decline from july.

So yeah, its really that bad.


Meanwhile CCP axed like 60% of its staff already IIRC?



Are they downsizing or.....cutting off their limbs while trying to stay alive?
Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#1940 - 2015-09-20 10:16:08 UTC
Daniela Doran wrote:
Caleb Seremshur wrote:


Meanwhile CCP axed like 60% of its staff already IIRC?



Are they downsizing or.....cutting off their limbs while trying to stay alive?


WOD staff cut,

presumably most of the legion/dust staff cut.

most of the art staff cut.

Supposedly they've gone from 680 staff down to 200-something.