EVE General Discussion

Answer to what? There haven't been any new developments, including any new and unanswered questions, on this topic for many years now.

They have station interior for dust I think can't we just have that ?

Its chance came and went when all that time, effort and money invested came up with nothing.

Too bad. Too sad.

Cripes, I have alts older than your character...

Its hard to tell between your attacks on myself and CCP, but I think you'd agree then there there has not been shown any compelling game play presented that has a hope of being implemented?

Walking in stations already exists. All we need to add is guns, blood and more rooms.

I remember the video from fanfest where they presented Ambulation and it was fully interactive. There were some bugs, but, I subscribed because of that video also.

CCP I am still waiting. 5 years was not enough to fix this game?

A person with a realistic way of looking at things would surely agree with you. I don't think you would get much of that from your average WiS advocates. Not trying to be mean to them, they just aren't the realistic sort.

If they were they would understand that not only is CCP not the company to undertake such an endeavor (God love em, but super complicated projects aren't their forte, see WoD), but EVE is the wrong platform for it. It's an old game still plagued with legacy issues so deep it takes a major effort to do relatively minor things (like letting you return to the account lobby instead of having to log completely out and restart the client). A game needs to be created for the ground up for something like integrated WiS, and even when you do that you run into problems, as the makers of Star Citizen/Star Marine are finding out.

Continually trying to tack things on to a game with a Code Base from the late 90s is stupid. If the WiS types were asking for EVE II that would make more sense than what they are actually asking for.

I dont think WiS would ever have contributed or produced anything meaningful or productive in EVE.

You need to be out in space to do everything that matters in EVE.

Station trading is an exception, but even then you are looking at the market interface, and not a WiS environment.

Its an alternative to ship spinning, but really, is it?
A player who is shipspinning is already bored with the space content of EVE.
Him walking around the station with other likewise bored people is not likely to result in anything constructive.
Just a huge amount of tickets sent for inappropriate behavior, especially by "kalsarikänni" (meaning "underwear drunks" in Finnish) players on a weekend.

Corps meetings in station to plan things might have been interesting, but this is already facilitated through forums, ingame chat and voice comms.

WiS seemed to feature some playable "chess" rendition minigame, and some latent potential for gambling systems (enormously frought with legal liabilities). I dont think either of these would improve retention or interest.

It was a failed concept from the start, barring actual FPS style content elsewhere than in a standard station.
Underdstandable they pursued it, due to the remarkable character creation customisation system that, really weirdly, accompanied EVE development, and the forays into various avatar options explored and developed in the WoD effort. Some of that was implemented in DUST, but that too is now fail.

As Jenn says, an EVE II would perhaps make this, and more, possible.
We can only hope.
Crowdfunding alone could be an enormous impetus to support its development.

Unfortunately, concurrently to that and uncomfortably close to EVE, is the escalating situation in Star Citizen, which may end up killing crowdfunding and confidence in it.

As the cliche goes, CCP might want to ask itself:
"Where do you see yourself in 10 years"?

Gunjack isn't going to cover that. Neither will Valkyrie, nor DUST.
Seems unlikely EVE, as it exists today, with all its legacy code issues, could persist that long either, despite updates.

Tbh its a bit concerning that there doesn't seem to be any indication of development of an EVE II.
EVE in its current format, isnt going to last forever.
Unless perhaps as something similar to the inexplicable perpetual continuity of Runescape (?!), which would be a rather sad result.

Sooner or later, it needs to go EVE 2.0...

Nothing matters in Jita local.

Its just endless streams of spam.

And as I said, ingame chat already provides that.
You don't need a WiS station for it.
You can do it while ship-spinning or standing idly in your Captains Quarters.

Its naive that you dont realize that exact same social content is already provided by exactly the forums, local, convos, teamspeak,mslack, offgame forums/sites that you mention.

Being able to walk around in a station while doing so does not add anything to those existing formats of social interaction.

It just means you can walk, while you talk.
Who cares?
You really think people give a damn about your avatar except for the first 1 second impression?

Furthermore, WiS station content systemically REDUCES space content, because you cant do both at once.
Either you are trying to catfish desperate nerds with your sexy avatar in a station bar (!?) (and yours isnt attractive, btw), or you are out in space, making space content.