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AtramLolipop
Space Wolves ind.
Solyaris Chtonium
#1 - 2015-09-07 00:24:27 UTC
are guns on low sec gates going to be useful?

I thought CCP were taking about esculating the applied damage the longer you sit on a gate?
Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
#2 - 2015-09-07 02:25:08 UTC
AtramLolipop wrote:
are guns on low sec gates going to be useful?

I thought CCP were taking about esculating the applied damage the longer you sit on a gate?

They are useful.

But they aren't OP.
Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
#3 - 2015-09-07 12:27:30 UTC
Lowsec guns are about right in damage. But i find the warp off and they never reagress a little siliy. I abuse the crap out of it however.

Working with gate gun DPS on grid is a great way to solo. You can often hit well above your class if your cunning.

If they had a lot more DPS i think you just would never get anyone going flashy on a gate.

AKA the scientist.

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Well fun is also good.
Lan Wang
African Atomic.
OnlyFleets.
#4 - 2015-09-07 12:35:56 UTC
Posting in a stealth remove gatecamping thread

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Yang Aurilen
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-09-07 12:56:52 UTC
Delt0r Garsk wrote:
Lowsec guns are about right in damage. But i find the warp off and they never reagress a little siliy. I abuse the crap out of it however.

Working with gate gun DPS on grid is a great way to solo. You can often hit well above your class if your cunning.

If they had a lot more DPS i think you just would never get anyone going flashy on a gate.


More like everyone makes disposable instalocking keres alts with a fleet of arty nado's pre-aligned out to alpha everything.

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2015-09-07 15:59:25 UTC
AtramLolipop wrote:
I thought CCP were taking about esculating the applied damage the longer you sit on a gate?

discussed and dismissed, like years ago
Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
#7 - 2015-09-07 22:26:21 UTC
Yang Aurilen wrote:
Delt0r Garsk wrote:
Lowsec guns are about right in damage. But i find the warp off and they never reagress a little siliy. I abuse the crap out of it however.

Working with gate gun DPS on grid is a great way to solo. You can often hit well above your class if your cunning.

If they had a lot more DPS i think you just would never get anyone going flashy on a gate.


More like everyone makes disposable instalocking keres alts with a fleet of arty nado's pre-aligned out to alpha everything.

Where the hell do you fly... I haven't seen a nado on a gate since like. er 3 weeks. And its not secret why it is there.

But the dam instalocking nado that got my pod. At a instadock bookmark!!

Oh yea i need some more implants.

AKA the scientist.

Death and Glory!

Well fun is also good.
AtramLolipop
Space Wolves ind.
Solyaris Chtonium
#8 - 2015-09-08 00:42:56 UTC
I'm not complaining about gate camps. I just don't see the point in having guns when you can sit logi on a gate all day and blap anything that goes through.

That's a bit of a let down i was looking forward to seeing some good game play if the guns were actually going to target criminals. pretty rubbish that.
Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
#9 - 2015-09-08 02:28:39 UTC
AtramLolipop wrote:
I'm not complaining about gate camps. I just don't see the point in having guns when you can sit logi on a gate all day and blap anything that goes through.

That's a bit of a let down i was looking forward to seeing some good game play if the guns were actually going to target criminals. pretty rubbish that.

The guns do target criminals.

If people are going to sit under gate fire for extended periods of time, they have to commit a pile of ISK onto the field. I don't see any problem people risking their stuff in order to pitch tents and camp.
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#10 - 2015-09-08 06:50:33 UTC
AtramLolipop wrote:
I'm not complaining about gate camps. I just don't see the point in having guns when you can sit logi on a gate all day and blap anything that goes through.

That's a bit of a let down i was looking forward to seeing some good game play if the guns were actually going to target criminals. pretty rubbish that.


Basicly the devs are telling you the primary prerequisites setting up a gatecamp are attainable by players pretty quickly. In fact, it offers a fitting challenge to account for that extra damage. Also, current sentry re-engagement rules are pretty awesome and promote more awareness of the grid AND offer options to ships that would otherwise get blapped to engage. The point is a small barrier of access to setting up a chokepoint.
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#11 - 2015-09-08 07:35:08 UTC
My favorite is when the sentry guns shoot the 'good guy' trying to take down the campers.

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Yang Aurilen
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-09-08 09:04:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Yang Aurilen
Delt0r Garsk wrote:
Yang Aurilen wrote:
Delt0r Garsk wrote:
Lowsec guns are about right in damage. But i find the warp off and they never reagress a little siliy. I abuse the crap out of it however.

Working with gate gun DPS on grid is a great way to solo. You can often hit well above your class if your cunning.

If they had a lot more DPS i think you just would never get anyone going flashy on a gate.


More like everyone makes disposable instalocking keres alts with a fleet of arty nado's pre-aligned out to alpha everything.

Where the hell do you fly... I haven't seen a nado on a gate since like. er 3 weeks. And its not secret why it is there.

But the dam instalocking nado that got my pod. At a instadock bookmark!!

Oh yea i need some more implants.


You're not instadocking properly then. Do what I do:

1. Make instadock BM
2. Warp off somewhere where you can warp back to your BM
3. Right click station->Set Destination
4. Warp to BM(Works better if the station is >20 AU for autopilot to actually kick in)
5. Turn on autopilot while in warp
6. Land on grid and you'll instantly dock without any need for command
7. You're in station now

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#13 - 2015-09-08 09:06:08 UTC
once you get past a certain sized gang there isn't really all that much you can do to gate guns to make them useful without the system also punishing small gangs too much.

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Lan Wang
African Atomic.
OnlyFleets.
#14 - 2015-09-08 09:19:22 UTC
AtramLolipop wrote:
I'm not complaining about gate camps. I just don't see the point in having guns when you can sit logi on a gate all day and blap anything that goes through.

That's a bit of a let down i was looking forward to seeing some good game play if the guns were actually going to target criminals. pretty rubbish that.


so good gameplay is gate guns being untankable? sounds like bad gameplay imo

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#15 - 2015-09-08 09:27:04 UTC
lol low sec
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2015-09-08 16:28:54 UTC
Val'Dore wrote:
My favorite is when the sentry guns shoot the 'good guy' trying to take down the campers.

well myself and my law-abiding buddies was just watching this here gate for suspicious freighter activity when we was attacked without provocation, officer
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#17 - 2015-09-08 19:50:31 UTC
Can someone hand OP the ship doll? I think we all need to see where the ebil gatecampers touched him.





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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#18 - 2015-09-09 03:58:36 UTC
gate/station guns are fine, although that stupid thing shoots me most of the time. o7

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Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2015-09-09 04:10:28 UTC
Real men tank high sec gate guns

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

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Klyde
Lost Wacko's
#20 - 2015-09-09 04:34:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Klyde
So a group of frigs in low sec with agro sitting on a gate getting shot with gate guns, how many need to run before the cycle? My bet is None...course what do i know Pirate
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