EVE General Discussion

the last month has averaged ~21k, over all of 2015 it looks to be ~33k. A summer dip is usually pretty normal. Although yea it does seem a bit lower than normal. the 15k number seems pretty normal for the middle of the night (ustz) Early morning for the EU tz..


This thread went a lot further than I thought it would space, welp: ***This space for rent***

I think your numbera are a little off. I agree the numbers seem to be trending down but I play often between 7:00 - 11:00 utc (traditionally one of the quietest zones) and still often 20000kish online.

@ Jita Jitara. Your ideas break some of the fundemental elements of the sandbox as I see them and may result in increased numbers temporarily but would break the revenue for industrialists.

One day last month I logged on there was just 1 player online, so EVE was dead.

Am I playing this doom and gloom end of the world stuff right?


Edit:

Yeah, there really was just 1

Good thing that you are not a dev...

1) Even at times when we regularly had close to 60K players online vast areas of space were totally empty. We did not need more space then, we surely do not need more space with half the amount of players online at prime time.

2) Does not change anything. All you do is split up an alliance of the size of goonswarm into 3 alliances instead.

3) Titans have very little purpose already in the current sov system so technically they are already dead.

4) Taking away one of the few benefits that come with holding sov won´t motivate anyone to play the game, if anything if you remove them you achieve exactly the opposite of what you are thinking this change would do.

5) People who quit over getting ganked in 1.0 - 0.8 will also quit the game when they are ganked in 0.7 - 0.5 as far as changes to high sec goes, I have not seen a single change that made high sec safer that caused an increase in players. In an environmet where gankers had a much easier life the game kept growing, making it safer did not help with getting more players interested especially not long term players.

6) Can not say anything against that, but that is not really a new Idea either. People have been promoting something like that for a long time.

7) If you want plex for as low as 750 mil on the market go and buy plex with RL $ and crash the market (this might be expensive though and the price will go up again after a while. Setting a hard cap for plex price would completly go against the idea of a player driven ecomony (and the argument: "muh I don´t want to grind that much for gametime does not count").

8) Procurers and skiffs have more than enough EHP if you fit them correctly. If you chose to pick your ship by ISK/Hour you can make that is your decision, but the options to greatly reduce the chance to get ganked already exist.

9) While I am not a fan of the new Sov System (I am not a fan of flying frigs or playing catch) POS spamming wars were tedious as well.

10) Afaik wormholes are not too populated as well as it is, as long as you can go into wormholes solo and do stuff there I don´t see why we would need more of them.

11) Getting your income directly into your wallet makes ratting a lot more comfortable, as you don´t have to bother with flying tons of worthless loot around to sell it. If you want loot there are more than enough other regions where you can farm loot. The only reason I see here why ccp should swap to less bounty + loot for drones is if they feel like they need to reduce the amount of ISK getting injected into the economy, but I am sure they have a better insight into that topic than any player does.

12) Unless you completly rewrite the whole code of how anoms, missions and everything works PvE will always be predictable and thus not very challenging. If you want them to be challenging you can always use a ship that makes them harder to run.

On the marketing part I can only agree. CCP could do a lot more in that area.

I bolded and underlined the relevant bit, you answered your own query.

LOL

We're not here to play a modern market game. Games that change to get a different type of player, fail.

Increasing production times by a factor of three to five would be a start, so that a single player can no longer saturate a market with every module by his lonely self.

I came for the industry aspect of the game. Because it was deep, involving, an endeavour. And now I am going, because it was rendered a footnote.

I was thinking there's some validity to that statement about wider appeal. I made a suggestion about offering a real money prize for the Alliance Tournament, funded by vanity or special edition item sales. I agree with the statement about mainstream appeal because current tournament prizes are in-game items which to an outsider are unappealing for being part of a closed system.

Offering real money is superior because real world currency is something everyone can relate to.

EVE could stand to be more relevant, and a great way to do that is offer tournament prizes that outside gamers and non-gamers can understand.

More Valkyrie, DUST and Gunjack integration into EVE proper might help snag more cross-genre players.

I think the decline in active players is pretty evident from the server statistics, probably due in large part to dissatisfaction with the sov situation.

Im not sure how a 25% increase in PLEX prices since last fall at this time is related, but definately something has changed in player behavior.