Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Counting the gewn tears in this thread... nah mostly gewns.
I'm actually involved in holding sov over ONE constellation (I don't count fleeting up with allies cuz it's their entosis and their sov, not mine). That is exactly how much my corp intends to occupy and guess what, it's perfectly safe from trollceptors because:
a) We have ratings all over it.
b) We don't mind undocking in whatever ship we're in the mood to pilot today to chase them away.
c) We got trollceptored once, dealt with it with ease undocking 10 entosis ships and wrapping it up in 15 minutes, but not before...
d) ...one of our guys have been remarkably successful in blapping entosis ceptors by camping a node in cloaky lockspeed fit Arazu, but that requires patience, so his success is yet to be reproduced by the less patient ones.

tl;dr It affects everyone equally but the most tears come from one numerous yet remarkably incapable coalition.



If you try to hold more than you can hold, you are bound to have some trouble.
If you have a house too big for you, cleaning it is going to be a hassle, and maintenance bills are going to be higher.
You are not paying those bills to have fun. You are paying them for the benefits of the house - the way to have fun is completely in your hands and is no way related to the house bills. If having that house prevents your fun, get rid of it, it's not rocket science.

tl;dr Being a Boring Rodrigues is your fault, not the system's. The system is fine.

Anybody else can't help but get the feeling that if Aegis Sov had been proposed by a random forum-dweller instead of CCP it would have been shot down faster than a Titan hitting jump instead of bridge?

Seriously it reeks of all the bad game design that F&I is known for. I mean look at the patches so far.

Step 1: introduce new gimmicky mechanic completely obsoleting several ship classes.
Step 2: slap on arbitrary limitations and workarounds (4k/s speed limit? Where did that number come from?)
Step 3: slap on even more arbitrary limitations when that doesn't solve the problem (?)

People on F&I always say, if you need to add on a bunch of arbitrary limitations to make an idea work it's probably not a very good idea to begin with.

As some goon said earlier, the entire problem with dominion sov was capitals, supers, and titans. Not only are they very powerful but the game has a kind of positive feedback built into their construction. You use your supers to capture more systems to be able to build more supers to be able to capture more systems. Once anyone gets a lead on supers they snowball ahead.

If only someone could go back to the release of supers and tell CCP that ISK is not a balancing factor.

Thus actually being knowledgeable in entosis mechanics and warfare was gewned over by the way I choose to post.
Demagogy, Lucas, demagogy. Please do better 1/10.

Remarkable is the gewns ignorance when it's showing itself speaking as if entosis warfare is the thing of tomorrow and not today.

But you clearly aren't knowledgeable. All you've done in this post is go "Zomg the gewn tears" and repeatedly spew the same bull. You want to prove you're part of sov ownership and thus your point of view holds any relevance at all? Go right ahead. All posting as an NPC alt does is tell us you're not confident enough in what you say to put your main's name to it.

The issue never existed since if you undock anything at all (griffin is just one of the superior options), the ceptor can't do anything.
The gate camp is perfectly valid form of defense, which is supposed to have at least one weakness, because game design and stuff, you know, tradeoffs, meaningful decisions...

And yet you keep crying because your oh-so-nyanderful one-size-fits-all solution cannot fit 350lbs carebears you are.
Is there any shame about its own inability to undock a single frigate in gewnswarm out there?

ED: I just realized you're basically crying "remove gates". Now I wonder if that's the new genre in gewn tears or has it been there for a while without me noticing?

It has weaknesses in the form of bridging and wormholes. A competent covops pilot can worm his way past a gatecamp, and light a covert cyno to bring in his buddies.

However, the covops pilot actually has to have some skill to get out of a gatecamp. Thus, the piloting skill of the defenders and attackers are pitted against each other.

Again, please stop hammering that talking point again and again and again. It's thoroughly debunked and not doing you any favors.

Bunch of bullshit as usual.



With a titan gatecamp, there is no worming. There is no skill other than putting this space sausage on the gate. And you perfectly know there are other ways for a perfect gatecamp. So no, those are the "remove gates" tears, and nothing more.


It has been bunked as very efficient solution. Just because you are too bad, lazy and self-entitled to do it doesn't mean it's any less credible.


And you are busy crying for something both easy and fun?
Would you prefer a bombless bomber structure grind to chasing away interceptors? With the same frequency, naturally.
In case your answer is no, then the current system is more enjoyable than dominion sov to both you and attacker.
As such, we should not approve of measures which make it more enjoyable to one side at expense of the other...

These are patently false. Titan gatecamps can be escaped, and there is no such thing as a perfect gatecamp.


So now it's our fault for not using interceptors? Huh?

Its going to have to happen just like all of those other nerfs we forced in the past, it always goes the same way. We say x is overpowered and need to be changed, idiots say "gon tears hur dur", we try to use logic, idiots say "gon tears hur dur", we abuse the living **** out of said overpowered thing, CCP nerfs said thing, idiots celebrate goons getting nerfed forgetting we had called for the thing to be nerfed in the first place.

You would think people would have learned by now that when we say something is ****** up it should probably get fixed.