Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Not from what I can see. Biting ankles and talking unjustified amounts of smack has not changed in any way so as to require adaptation.

Damn that must have been one tough solo pvp myrm, 34 of eves best to kill him.
Now that's some pretty awesome content right there.

It's boring now, with the new mechanics. That tells me that the new mechanics are what are killing the game, not that we are blue. Coalitions have existed for a long time and the population has gone up. Now that coalitions are being aggressively attacked though mechanics changes the population is going down. You can't prove that coalitions are bad for the game because they aren't.

We're not whining about why we can't kill stuff. As we always have, we can roam around and find fight just like you do. What we are doing here is pointing out that the mechanics will increase the level of stagnation in null because they are badly thought out. People like you are happy to see the game lose subscribers as long as it benefits you.

FYI: This blog post goes a long way to explaining why people don't just unblue for the sake of it and why mechanics need to change to drive conflict.

The new mechanics killing the game? So after DRF seized to exist and a blue blob formed in the north and a series of blue blobs in the south, the game subscription began to take a tomble. There was some events that did not really measured up to their hipe and some disapointments began. There was very few actual good events. Before 2013, eve is full of series of great events.
In 2013 the game so famous chart of user subscription that people keep showing on an on, it shows a steady decrease for ages of pilots. I am a been playing this game forever. So it shows a steadelly decreasing since before Sep 2013. It not this sov. So thats debunked! No more lies plz. This is put to rest!

You cant fight fight cos there is no one to shoot. How many times i got to say this? You got too many blues! Its your fault not CCP! The level of stagnation is defined by level acitivty. If players like you are so bent on staying and set everyone to blue well what do you get? I mean seriously what you expect? Another DRF? Maybe who knows but you still got old DRF members blue or friendly. So i dont see how this is going to happen....Agin your fault, just in case you miss that too!
I am not happy to lose game subscription even thought I was one of the people shooting Jita monument in the riot.
Thats one reason I want people to reset to go back to the old chaotic eve, that was much more fun. These were the days when there was not so much blues.

Do you honestly believe this? For it's members, fun is a priority. You think you'd really hold on to this meany members if you couldn't entertain them? As for enemies, that's more propaganda than anything else, but yeah, the most efficient way of winning a battle is making your enemies choose not to fight. The goal of game mechanics is to make sure that fighting is always a good choice. That's called driving conflict. These new mehcanics make that even less important. Honestly I didn't think they could come up with a way to drive less conflict than dominion, but CCP surprises us once again.

They aren't the only reason for the drop in population, but they are certainly a contributing factor to the recent dip. Go ahead and pull out the stats and there's a clear drop at each stage of this sov release.

And if you've been around for a long time, you should know that a major selling point of EVE has always been the massive fleet battles. Those are almost dead now and will be further reduced if these mechanics continue to be rolled out.

Of course there's people to fight! If we want to fight we can easily find one. Everyone hates us remember. Just because we have a lot of allies, it doesn't mean we don't also have a lot of enemies. We simply have not reason to do it.

Us resetting, it will not happen. If CCP aren't putting in reasons for us to fight, we're not going to do it. That's like asking a shopkeeper to stop selling his best selling products just for a challenge. It makes no sense. If null stagnates further it's all on CCP. If they can't design a game that drives conflict then their game will die. It's really that simple.

And obviously you don't care about loss of subs, which is why you are selfishly supporting mechanics that benefit you while harming the core of what makes EVE different from other MMOs.

Your kill board had better be awesome, if you even have one.

While there was a significant increase of user during the dominion and DRF invasion, it was followed by a quick downfall.
The battle aint all. ISK drives it too big time. During Dominion it was really easy to make much more isk due to bugs and the trend at that time that everyone wanted to move to null. There was no system that did not have a carrrier. Everyone was ratting like crazy. High sec numbers went really down and high sec war deckers whined and CCP fixed the bugs and then nerfed it. Number began to take a tumble again. Now CCP made it really easy to make even more isk wit hthe buff to systems. There are so many anomolies I cant eevn count them!

The most significant change is without a doubt is that there is not enough action in eve. In the last few years the same sov did jack for numbers even with B-R5RB event. Its not sov. Its people opting out of pvp and unsubscribing alts. If I was in the CFC, I would probably unsubsribe too my alts. There is so much safety in numbers that makes no sence to have alts. Besides you are not getting the fights.



NCDot and DRF did not have a reason to fight besides beef over past eve events. Not CCP, but eve players. B-R5RB was pritty much an accident from a bad decision from N3. They ignored the first rule in eve when capitals. Load grid first or suicide.
War between the russians that just ended, also a beef over events in the past. Goons causing the destruction of BOB, also a beef event. The destruction of Atlas also a beef. The destruction of PL in fountain also over beef. The destruction of Goons by IT Alliance also a beef. The invasion of Goons into Esoteria and subsecuent dispatched of Goons back home was also over a beef in a thread. The first war between Goons and BOB also over a beef.
CCP DOES NOT PUT THE REASON TO FIGHT. PLAYERS DRAMA DOES IT ALL THE TIME!!!!!!
I cant believe your character is so old and you havent noticed this already?
Its players that generate content not CCP! Quit blaiming them for your faults!

you are quite right. it's not zipping around in interceptor that gives the ownership, it's failure of defenders to show up.
if an entity wants to hold space, they need to dedicate themselves to it, and show up for defense. it shouldn't be based on defender sitting docked up protected by gazillions of HP

ISK is always easy to make. Incursions, high sec trading and FW all exist.

Sov didn't do much, but news articles of epic battles with $300,000 in damages did and those battles occurred because of committed assets in null. Those types of battles will no longer occur under the current system since people no longer need to commit assets to take sov.

They may not have had a reason to start the fight, but the mechanics are why the fight escalated. Fights will invariably be because group A can't deal peacefully with group B and often because of resources (see the entire fountain war), but thanks to the new mechanics, when that happens no big battle occurs. We have people now citing 60b in losses as an epic scale battle. That's horrendous to be quite honest.

How long would you tolerate a kid playing ding dong ditch at your door?

You can't unplug the door bell (they will just knock instead) but if you decide to ignore them, they get to own a room in your house.