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Lane Wyeth-VII
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-08-19 03:12:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Lane Wyeth-VII
What if we blew up the amarr capital?

As many of you in this topic will know capitals warped to safizon a bit ago in a live event against the drifters, I myself am against the destruction of the drifters and wouldve defended them if i was able to. So Im curious the devs have said that the events go in the directions the players choose so what do you think the outcomes couldve been if the amarr had to deal with some very determined terrorist?


I personally like the idea of the drifters seizing the system for a few days while the amarr attempt to regroup and rearm to drive them out or just surrendering, as all opposed races should.
Rhael Stormfury
House Stormfury
#2 - 2015-08-19 03:55:19 UTC
The Abominations will be driven from all known space...and firstly The Throne Worlds should they show themselves.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-08-19 04:20:48 UTC
For a case such as this, I can see there not being a specific direction. There could be an outcome that at the core is same regardless, the context to get there might have options.

As a roleplayer, I am not going in this direction, but from a story perspective, I would be interested to know the outcome. What I can see from the story is that if the drifters get the advantage, there is some objective they are looking for and if they get it, then will see a different aggressive drifter. If the drifters lose an all out fight vs the Amarr in an attempt for a key objective, I expect more guerrilla tactics perhaps to draw out what they are after.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#4 - 2015-08-19 07:56:21 UTC
I imagine a whole lot of people get manually set to -10 by the Devs, their corps might also get set to -10, and Jamyl being a capsuleer is fine.
You would of course have to suicide gank a titan to do so, I suggest calculating that out.
Lane Wyeth-VII
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-08-19 15:28:51 UTC
Rhael Stormfury wrote:
The Abominations will be driven from all known space...and firstly The Throne Worlds should they show themselves.


I hope you are talking about the amarrians as the drifters themselves have done nothing wrong

capsuleers attacked their scouts
capsuleers intruded at their poses
capsuleers shot first
and now capsuleers complain about drifters killing them

to me the drifters have simply declared war to defend themselves and are our closest rivals when it comes to intelligence they are the only race to know that a capsuleers weak point is their pod and they have enough pride to keep our corpse as a trophy
Lane Wyeth-VII
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-08-19 15:31:12 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
I imagine a whole lot of people get manually set to -10 by the Devs, their corps might also get set to -10, and Jamyl being a capsuleer is fine.
You would of course have to suicide gank a titan to do so, I suggest calculating that out.


if the devs did this it would only be set with the amarr in fact devs might raise the standings for other races as no one has thought of what those capitals will be used for after the drifters have settled down (be it by defeating their enemy or god fogive me but being destroyed)
Yockerbow
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-08-19 20:51:41 UTC
Out of curiosity, does anyone know if the Empress and her fleet show up as war targets for Minmatar and Gallente militia?

If not, they should Twisted
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#8 - 2015-08-19 23:20:27 UTC
Yockerbow wrote:
Out of curiosity, does anyone know if the Empress and her fleet show up as war targets for Minmatar and Gallente militia?

If not, they should Twisted

I doubt it, since they aren't a registered part of the Amarr Milita. Simply being Amarrian does not make one a war target for Milita, you have to be a registered part of the opposing milita.
Which also means she can't just randomly shoot the Gal & Min milita in highsec either. (She has to set them suspect first inside Amarr space instead)
Lane Wyeth-VII
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2015-08-19 23:29:37 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
I doubt it, since they aren't a registered part of the Amarr Milita. Simply being Amarrian does not make one a war target for Milita, you have to be a registered part of the opposing milita.
Which also means she can't just randomly shoot the Gal & Min milita in highsec either. (She has to set them suspect first inside Amarr space instead)


better question is if concord would show up if we attacked

i cant remember the lore but i recall them only showing up in player vs player events
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#10 - 2015-08-19 23:58:01 UTC
Lane Wyeth-VII wrote:

better question is if concord would show up if we attacked

i cant remember the lore but i recall them only showing up in player vs player events

Since the Devs use Event actors for Jamyl etc who are identical to players, the answer is yes.
Lane Wyeth-VII
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-08-20 22:39:41 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:

Since the Devs use Event actors for Jamyl etc who are identical to players, the answer is yes.


kind of a pity since if we were able to attack them normally more of the darker parts of the events would unfold and make a more noticeable line between whos taking whos side

understandably there would be the people who just want to blow up the actors but if people wanted the event to go a certain way they would defend the actors as well

i am relatively new to the rp and event side of eve but i find it sad we are limited to the highsec pvp rules when the people are considered to be navy officials
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-08-20 23:27:18 UTC
In the first sansha events, there was an issue where an actor caused a concord. This was quickly fixed so that players could shoot at actors without concord. The drawback was sansha supporters could not rep sansha or shoot the players.

As such, I cannot see why it would be such a problem now to shoot at Jamyl. However if done so, it will probably result in a swift alpha from the amarr. In addition, even if the entire system max population was shooting a cap level tank in highsec, probably wouldn't take it down before the npcs shredded everybody. So to take down Jamyl would require taking out the navy and working with the drifters.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Grash Uriza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2015-08-27 02:35:41 UTC
Lane Wyeth-VII wrote:
What if we blew up the amarr capital?


Dear Caldari Ally,

"Burn Jita" would have a new meaning shortly after that.

I hope that clears up your confusion.
*wink wink nudge nudge say no more*

- Just Another Guy from Amarr
Yockerbow
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2015-08-27 14:27:21 UTC
Markus Reese wrote:
In the first sansha events, there was an issue where an actor caused a concord. This was quickly fixed so that players could shoot at actors without concord. The drawback was sansha supporters could not rep sansha or shoot the players.


You could also shoot the CONCORD actors. Look up Haledone Dorgiers on eve-kill or zkb.

Even after they changed the mechanic to keep the actors from drawing Concord response, players figured out that getting a GCC within range of the smartbombs would spawn police NPCs, which would then get hit by the smartbombs and pop the actor's carrier.

That was pretty much the end of those events Sad
Lane Wyeth-VII
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2015-08-31 21:12:33 UTC
Grash Uriza wrote:


Dear Caldari Ally,

"Burn Jita" would have a new meaning shortly after that.

I hope that clears up your confusion.
*wink wink nudge nudge say no more*

- Just Another Guy from Amarr


I do not side with caldari or any of the 4 standard races I side with the drifters and as far as everything goes I am learning what i wanted since the event went in the direction albeit not at the time i was expecting but still in the right how i want it