Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Congratulation on the choice of changes for Galatea, they are reasonable and measured.
It shows that CCP truly listen to all sides.
Good job!

The majority of nullsec hasn't pointed to anything. A loud minority, consisting mostly of your alliance is crying and pointing at all the wrong things, rest of the playerbase and devs laugh at your futile mongering. You're wrong, suck it up or just gtfo- there''s literally nobody that cares whether you unsub or not, but at least have the decency to shut up.

Finally some feedback from AFK CCP

1: Speed needs to be severely limited when an Entosis Link is online(block Entosis and MWD running concurrently).
2: Remove ability from ALL nullified ships to fit a Entosis Link.
3: Make cloaks and the Entosis Link mutually exclusive to each other.

Unfortunately, we are seeing the ishtar tweak approach here. Hint the game and especially the new SOV system will not survive ice-cube tweaks it badly needs a Titanic sized ice-BERG to fix this.

The speed limitation does nothing to fix the 'trollceptor' and still doesn't address the issue of when systems are attacked with "Trollceptors" but never following up on, this is making SOV ownership worthless.

Make command nodes appear 1 or 2 appear at a time so that combat has to occur if contested. If no contest then have the nodes revert to sov owner over time but pretty fast say 2 hours.

While I strongly feel that interceptors are way too powerful for this role, I wanted to point out another thing.
This IS direct ccp's fault that nullsec is not worth living in.
People are there to build empires. What tools do we have for that, if even jump bridges are useless and capships are not wanted? Like seriously. I know the alliance that gives away motherships to their members. And players are like - nah, I dont have spare characters for that coffin.

If you can't kill a 4km/s ceptor that cannot warp, the issue is with you not the system...

I understand that one of your stated design goals was to have as little effect on the ships that people brought to a fight as possible. I understand the reason for that desire and I respect it, but I believe I that goal isnt a good goal to have.

People dont want an actual fight, they want to show up and massacre their opponents or run away which is the cause for all of this frustration and these super risk averse fleets. This has always been the case, and the new sov system is just the latest way these people are baiting fights.

Contesting sov should be just that, an actual attempt to contest sov, not just an attempt by a roaming group to bait a quick fight, or troll the holding alliance with uncatchable ships never truly meant to contest the space. In light of that philosophy, I suggest the following three changes

1. Change the entosis link to a 5 minute (300 second) duration.
2. Change Mass Increase on the entosis link to 7,500,000 for the T2 and 1,000,000 for the T1
3. Change the range of the T2 entosis link to 225 km

These three small changes will make disengaging from a fight far more difficult and I believe they will result in better fights and fewer troll attempts.

Thoughts?

I'm not exactly sure why the entosis modules need these crazy ranges but w/e.

The real issue is that you're basically fighting your other game mechanics. The only way to deal with gate camps is jump, mwd trick and cloak, hope they don't lock you at all, or to fly an interceptor.

That situation means ceptors have to be hard to catch close up.

The new sov situation is the opposite, you can sit anywhere in a very large radius, removing the spatial constraint you had previously, but ceptors and other fast ships are still allowed to do be in this situation.

That's only a problem because there is simply no way to catch up to someone like that at all. It's also true for a sov node 'fight' but the problem originates in the basic design of combat that you can't engage someone faster than you if he doesn't want to fight.

You have the same problem with various fast cruisers that are effectively too fast to be probed down. If they want to troll you, in your system, for indefinite amounts of time, they can. No restrictions. Same applies to afk cloakers.

There are no choke points inside systems or here on sov node grids, there is no fuel they could run out of thus removing their advantage, there is no way to outplay someone going faster than you or cloaking at all, ever, in any way, with any ship or module or gun or number of people.

THIS actual issue, I'd very much like to see solved and I'd be very curious to see your ideas and solutions to it, but I don't think you're going to touch it, because sov is the priority right now and I'm sure there are like 10 other things going on too.

Good luck!

PS: gates have the condition that you have no intel of the other side as well, that's contributing to the whole thing.

"The mass penalty is being replaced with a "speed limit" "

Finally! Something some of us having been asking for as long as it was possible.

More penalties for fast stuff, no useless penalty for everyone including slow doctrines.

You should reduce the limit to 3k5 though in my opinion. 4k cannot even be reached by all inties.

Looks like Fozzie SOV is here to stay.

Good luck to CCP and everybody involved. Hope it all works out in the end.

yeah, and before fozziesov there were sov wars left right and center, right?