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Alyxportur
From Our Cold Dead Hands
ORPHANS OF EVE
#1 - 2015-08-17 18:19:20 UTC
With some details proposed/released for the upcoming Citadel structures and how asset security is likely going to be dealt with regarding them, I'm wondering why a similar mechanism (and useful ISK sink) cannot be implemented for moving ANY assets out of the existing stations in the game?

Many players have items scattered throughout nullsec, and while such debris is not likely to ever become commonplace again since there seems to be less moving around, why not use the same mechanic of paying 10% of the ISK value (please make that Jita-based for this and the Citadels) to have something moved over the course of a week or more? Such a high % isn't likely to compete with the services of Black Frog and might possibly encourage more independent couriers to compete against the mechanic even (though I doubt it).

So while this is a feature request, I'll phrase it as a question again: Why not give our current assets in nullsec (or anywhere) the same ISK-sink, movement mechanic that you're going to give our future assets?
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2015-08-17 18:25:19 UTC
Alyxportur wrote:
With some details proposed/released for the upcoming Citadel structures and how asset security is likely going to be dealt with regarding them, I'm wondering why a similar mechanism (and useful ISK sink) cannot be implemented for moving ANY assets out of the existing stations in the game?

Many players have items scattered throughout nullsec, and while such debris is not likely to ever become commonplace again since there seems to be less moving around, why not use the same mechanic of paying 10% of the ISK value (please make that Jita-based for this and the Citadels) to have something moved over the course of a week or more? Such a high % isn't likely to compete with the services of Black Frog and might possibly encourage more independent couriers to compete against the mechanic even (though I doubt it).

So while this is a feature request, I'll phrase it as a question again: Why not give our current assets in nullsec (or anywhere) the same ISK-sink, movement mechanic that you're going to give our future assets?


If it's risk free, 10% of value to move it will not be enough of a financial hit.
Alyxportur
From Our Cold Dead Hands
ORPHANS OF EVE
#3 - 2015-08-17 19:03:53 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Alyxportur wrote:
With some details proposed/released for the upcoming Citadel structures and how asset security is likely going to be dealt with regarding them, I'm wondering why a similar mechanism (and useful ISK sink) cannot be implemented for moving ANY assets out of the existing stations in the game?

Many players have items scattered throughout nullsec, and while such debris is not likely to ever become commonplace again since there seems to be less moving around, why not use the same mechanic of paying 10% of the ISK value (please make that Jita-based for this and the Citadels) to have something moved over the course of a week or more? Such a high % isn't likely to compete with the services of Black Frog and might possibly encourage more independent couriers to compete against the mechanic even (though I doubt it).

So while this is a feature request, I'll phrase it as a question again: Why not give our current assets in nullsec (or anywhere) the same ISK-sink, movement mechanic that you're going to give our future assets?


If it's risk free, 10% of value to move it will not be enough of a financial hit.


A good argument (against this and the Citadel asset mechanic), and I can agree that in asset movement there needs to be both risk and an ISK-sink, but how do you add risk to goods being moved when it's not a player doing it?
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2015-08-17 19:14:19 UTC
Alyxportur wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Alyxportur wrote:
With some details proposed/released for the upcoming Citadel structures and how asset security is likely going to be dealt with regarding them, I'm wondering why a similar mechanism (and useful ISK sink) cannot be implemented for moving ANY assets out of the existing stations in the game?

Many players have items scattered throughout nullsec, and while such debris is not likely to ever become commonplace again since there seems to be less moving around, why not use the same mechanic of paying 10% of the ISK value (please make that Jita-based for this and the Citadels) to have something moved over the course of a week or more? Such a high % isn't likely to compete with the services of Black Frog and might possibly encourage more independent couriers to compete against the mechanic even (though I doubt it).

So while this is a feature request, I'll phrase it as a question again: Why not give our current assets in nullsec (or anywhere) the same ISK-sink, movement mechanic that you're going to give our future assets?


If it's risk free, 10% of value to move it will not be enough of a financial hit.


A good argument (against this and the Citadel asset mechanic), and I can agree that in asset movement there needs to be both risk and an ISK-sink, but how do you add risk to goods being moved when it's not a player doing it?


The fact that losing a citadel is "required" for it to work is allright for those that do lose a citadel imo. Doing it freely from whatever station you might not even have access to is not OK for me. People won't use freighter service if you can get it move for 10% of the market value with 100% safety. The real cost is not just 10% if your alliance had to lose a citadel for it to happen.
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2015-08-17 22:24:05 UTC
Sure, if it'll cost several billion isk for a few hundred of m^3