Assembly Hall

I unfortunately missed this but I sure hope we address a few things. A lot of people seem to want to tackle all the problems now but until some missing pieces are implemented, it is difficult to know for sure how it is best to address.

This new system granted it needs adjustment (insert interesting content here) is forcing entities to live in a smaller footprint. That is fine in principle. That said, from a transportation standpoint, jump bridges usage went from crazy high to probably 5-10% of what it was (I am being generous). I would heavily reduce fatigue similar to a JF or remove it entirely. If a large entity owns 1 constellation, who cares if that JB network makes it easy to travel in it?? Its a substantial quality of life improvement for resident while having little to no impact on force projection.

For capitals, I would either look at reduced fatigue (say 20% less) or same fatigue with increased range (say +2LY). Something not too drastic so CCP can evaluate the impact and adjust if needed. They keep flashing that increased iteration speed as an advantage. Capitals/force projection is important enough to try and find a better situation without reverting back completely (or maintaining current status quo).

Once capitals are rebalanced and we have the structures, then we can have a good idea of what additional changes could be needed.

As I see it as I listen to the round table.

Home field advantage should have massive reduced Jump Fatigue when using JB no matter the ship.

if there's still a possibility to ask a question:

Is it possible to generate jumpfatigue only when doing a regional jump e.g. from Metropolis -> The Forge but jumpes within the same region do not generate fatigue or it gets a bonus of e.g. 50% less fatigue?

In my opinion that would still make it hard to move across multiple regions but makes it possible to move faster within the same region and therefore make it easier to generate local (3 regions according to CCP Larrikin) content

http://www.netsky.org/CCPJFRT.zip

RAW, UnCut, Full Length.
CCP/CSM Round Table: Jump Fatigue 2 hours 2 minutes.

Well it seems that CCP havent answered any question in particular and limit their answers to evasive manouvers.

The point is not only the the jump fatigue for itself but the limited LY that capitals can jump.
I can understand their concerns, however something should be done regardind for those who only wish to move assets to or from null sec/low sec/high sec, and that part as not been looked as it should.

Mobility from and to null sec are needed in order to people can move their things, If there is no mobility and the risk are too high, of course nobody will move anything and null sec will be empty in a short matter of time ( it is now in fact).

Null sec markets never worked as intended, but theres one part of null where null sec market works but that comes with a cost where only a few have become rich(trilionaires) and the others must do what they are told.

One of the problems are most of the people dont care about pvp, i can understand them and I can undurstand those who really want to make pvp, but the reallity in eve is other, everytime some group tries to make some pvp they are literally ganked by hotdrops and that is not pvp. That way are demotivating for who are trying to start on pvp, as they always ends on the same way, no matter what they do, its high skilled and trained pvpeers in a large superior numbers against no trained at all new pvpeers.

Small entities as CCP call the small alliances, are not going to be able to estabilish in null sec, at least for medium or long periods due the anterior and that new sov mechanichs. CCP are convicted that unused systems are the main problem or the renter alliances, but thats not true and they know that, systems are not in use just because they are not providing anything usefull to players as they have done 4 or 5 year ago where all systems are equal and the upgrades will upgrade only that system giving the real benefit to who work on that system.

Four years ago almost everybody as what are looking for, pvpeers, miners, explorers industrialists, traders etc, now almost anyone are getting what are looking for, and that is very bad for the game.

CCP have created and feeded the monster, now they havent any clue on how to dominate that monster and, the worst part of this story is, that said monster have dominated CCP.

thank you mike! :)

Thanks for uploading Mike! Next time please disable the Teamspeak sound notifications when recording.

Out of curiousity, How would it have been better set up, then?

Please remember that CCP does not plan on announcing new things at informal q and a sessions. But would you decide to select a small crew of players excluding the larger population as not being worthy of having the floor? Exclude anybody who has not FC'd?. Who?

Or maybe it would have been better if we moderated more sternly . . . wander off topic, *shachchack BOOM* on to the next person.

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Really? I dont understand you guys one minute its HTFU Eve is not easy, and secondly oh eve is too hard please make it easy! It seems its only when it makes your game hard its a problem when its someone else then they get trolled to htfu. For too long large nullsec alliances have had it for too easy. Even your statement rental overlord states basically as an alliance youre too damn lazy to own your own space and make money from it yourselves. You believe that your numbers and caps should get you out of trouble, well it shouldnt, thats been the issue. Probably even harder for BL being a jabber ping alliance!

Why dont yo uuse your own space for building? Why not mine your own minerals to make it more viable? No because you simply cant be arsed and thats what CCP has at last decided to say enough is enough.

One minute people want simulation and then when its suits them arcade mode. You want eve to be real but then not.

Imagine you are really in deep space, in hostile space, do you think it would be easy then? People colonise because they are zillions of miles away from space hubs. You have to do the same, you have to make your home. If you cant do that then perhaps you should not be living in nullsec?

Jump Fatigue Solution

Everyone was crying out for this, and the only people whining about it is surprisinig the large null sec alliances with caps that cant move around quickly to hotdrop whoever they want at a moments notice.
Also solo pilots trying to moving caps, supers and titans. You complain about choke points and being stuck, without someone easily knowing your next move. Well low sec have had this problem for years its called pirate gate camps. But for some reason thats Ok and people need to figure it out and not be so dumb. Go figure.
But really should you ever be moving a super or titan alone? without any support? of course not, thats a big target saying suicide and you being completely dumb.

But I agree its a little too easy for the person finding you. What i think might be a good change is that you can change the amount you can jump on a slider, which affects the jump fatiqgue factor and of course fuel consumption. For example if you want to jump 6LY then the jump fatique would be higher than if you jumped 5LY. I think this should be up to a maximum of 15LY. So at least you can have more options, not succumb so much to choke points, but still slows down power projection.


FozzieSov.
for too long alliances have been able to own stupid amounts of space and not even live in it, rent it out, use the moons and pretty much sit back and rely on supers to be the I win button, especially when jump fatigue wasnt around. CCP have decided and a great move it is, to say hey if you want space then your going to have to actually live in it, grow it, colonise it, and if you cant well you shouldnt have it. Bravo! absolutely the right thing to do.

its already had a profound affect, and especially on those large alliances such as NC. BL. etc that are just jabber ping alliances that are not active constantly and their members have got to used to playing the cap game.
But its been great for the smaller guys to grab some space and fight over it too. So I have to surprisingly give CCP the thumbs up and this one. Its about time.

Yes there are things that need to improve on fozziesov, its always been ike this in eve, things progress and change as the players feedback and use it more. Alliances like XXDeath who are crying because it affects their rental empire and botting need to get with the program and get in the new world or gtfo. Im tired of large vet alliances blackmailing CCP, you are not the future of eve, new players are and i think the penny has finally dropped with CCP.

Even though there is still a lot more work to do around the game to bring more players in. And CCP will need to make some big balls decisions like they recently have to do that. Stopping scamming for example is one.

However and this maybe controversial i think its time we had a new server instance, sorry but i dont agree with the one server philosophy, we have alliance been around for years that have taken and kept all the resources in eve for many years and left none for anyone else. its not fair on new players or newer players that they will never be able to have control of this. This is why many other mmos have multiple instances so that everyone has equal opportunities. Oh an no one would be able to transfer chars or ISK to a new server, incase you was wondering..

It was abit like, come join me riding my dead horse :)