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Malcolm Erkkinen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-08-05 16:13:18 UTC
Hi,
Apologies if this has already been addressed elsewhere - but has the value of loot & salvage been nerfed recently? My "take" from belt rats seems to have noticeably dropped off in the last week or so. Of course, I may be going through a fallow patch but wondered if anyone else had noticed this.

I've not moved from my usual systems or anything so no change in that regard.

Malc
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#2 - 2015-08-05 16:19:43 UTC
RNG is R.
Hadrian Blackstone
Yamato Holdings
#3 - 2015-08-05 16:40:33 UTC
Malcolm Erkkinen wrote:
Hi,
Apologies if this has already been addressed elsewhere - but has the value of loot & salvage been nerfed recently? My "take" from belt rats seems to have noticeably dropped off in the last week or so. Of course, I may be going through a fallow patch but wondered if anyone else had noticed this.

I've not moved from my usual systems or anything so no change in that regard.

Malc


Changes to industry nerfed loot/salvage awhile ago.
Malcolm Erkkinen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2015-08-05 16:52:05 UTC
Tippia wrote:
RNG is R.


Pardon?
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#5 - 2015-08-05 16:56:04 UTC
Malcolm Erkkinen wrote:
Tippia wrote:
RNG is R.


Pardon?

Random number generator is random

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Malcolm Erkkinen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-08-05 17:37:13 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Malcolm Erkkinen wrote:
Tippia wrote:
RNG is R.


Pardon?

Random number generator is random


Ah thank you. I guess I'm just going through a fallow patch!
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#7 - 2015-08-05 17:39:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Vincent Athena
There have been several nerfs.

In high sec, belt rats use to occasionally drop an implant. Now, they never do. My guess is this change is because of things like the 750 million ISK Snake Omega I once got from a belt rat in a 0.8 system.

Also, minerals from reprocessing of loot has been cut in half. So any item which is in oversupply has had its value cut in half.

The remainder of loot value drop is due to market forces and randomness.

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Escobar Sr
Gang Bang You're Dead
Wrecktical Supremacy.
#8 - 2015-08-05 18:06:29 UTC
Risk VS Reward. If RNG would drop good stuff every time, why would people bust their asses in LS, NS or WH?!?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#9 - 2015-08-05 18:17:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Vincent Athena wrote:
There have been several nerfs.

In high sec, belt rats use to occasionally drop an implant. Now, they never do. My guess is this change is because of things like the 750 million ISK Snake Omega I once got from a belt rat in a 0.8 system.

Also, minerals from reprocessing of loot has been cut in half. So any item which is in oversupply has had its value cut in half.

The remainder of loot value drop is due to market forces and randomness.

Sure, but none of those are recent or were snuck in without any fanfare. Pretty much every time the question “has this changed…?” comes up when related to drops (with or without an implied “stealth nerf” tacked on), it's just a case of RNG is R.

These days, any attempt at sneaking stuff in is doomed, and any change that will be even remotely noticeable will be communicated long in advance.
kes88
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-08-05 18:50:39 UTC
I've still had some pretty nice drops, even in high sec (lovely implants x 2). Maybe in the last month at least. Think it's just a phase.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#11 - 2015-08-05 22:15:18 UTC
The issue with "random" is and has always been in fact the "random" part in and of itself. By its very nature, RNG makes it pretty impossible to accurately tell when it's not working right or favor one side of the odds over the other incorrectly.

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Malcolm Erkkinen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-08-06 07:33:34 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
There have been several nerfs.

In high sec, belt rats use to occasionally drop an implant. Now, they never do. My guess is this change is because of things like the 750 million ISK Snake Omega I once got from a belt rat in a 0.8 system.

Also, minerals from reprocessing of loot has been cut in half. So any item which is in oversupply has had its value cut in half.

The remainder of loot value drop is due to market forces and randomness.


I think someone must have heard me moaning Big smile

I just had a Mid Grade Slave Epsilon drop for me - I had to double check the ISK value of my cargo hold!

I'm aware that RNGs are random but two weeks of poor results from both loot and salvage made me wonder if something had been adjusted and I'd simply missed that news. Thanks for all your responses.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#13 - 2015-08-06 07:37:58 UTC
^^ It's always nice when phat implants dropBig smile

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Joey Bags
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2015-08-06 19:19:24 UTC
I got the biggest haul I've ever had (about 3B) a few days ago. This was after about a month of miserable loot takes. So you never know.

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#15 - 2015-08-06 20:20:28 UTC
in 11 yeras i don;t think i ever had an implant drop for me form a HS rat. You lucky bastards =)

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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2015-08-07 01:46:41 UTC
Rain6637
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2015-08-07 09:48:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6637
Malcolm Erkkinen wrote:
Hi,
Apologies if this has already been addressed elsewhere - but has the value of loot & salvage been nerfed recently? My "take" from belt rats seems to have noticeably dropped off in the last week or so. Of course, I may be going through a fallow patch but wondered if anyone else had noticed this.

I've not moved from my usual systems or anything so no change in that regard.

Malc

If loot tables get buffed, your values get nerfed. See: Pith X-type mods. More frequent drops means lower prices due to increased supply. While you perceive a nerf, loot drops may have in fact received a buff.

Escobar Sr wrote:
Risk VS Reward. If RNG would drop good stuff every time, why would people bust their asses in LS, NS or WH?!?

I think you mean supply and demand. Risk v Reward does not explain everything in EVE. See: Thought-terminating cliché

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Commander Spurty
#18 - 2015-08-07 10:37:22 UTC
The odds improve the further you move from the center of the universe

Null drops are impressive.

You would need to be out there though to know this.

Wormholes you just scale up the drops like mission levels. Class 3~4 is as far as you can go without a bit of help / infrastructure

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Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#19 - 2015-08-07 21:50:31 UTC
Tippia wrote:
RNG is R.


Since when do you actually awnser a question correctly, let alone with 6 letters. I feel a bias here.


Malcolm Erkkinen wrote:
Vincent Athena wrote:
There have been several nerfs.

In high sec, belt rats use to occasionally drop an implant. Now, they never do. My guess is this change is because of things like the 750 million ISK Snake Omega I once got from a belt rat in a 0.8 system.

Also, minerals from reprocessing of loot has been cut in half. So any item which is in oversupply has had its value cut in half.

The remainder of loot value drop is due to market forces and randomness.


I think someone must have heard me moaning Big smile

I just had a Mid Grade Slave Epsilon drop for me - I had to double check the ISK value of my cargo hold!

I'm aware that RNGs are random but two weeks of poor results from both loot and salvage made me wonder if something had been adjusted and I'd simply missed that news. Thanks for all your responses.




I've had a few implant drops from highsec belt rats, and honestly I can say that the slaves in amarr space are worth more than the ones that drop in minmatar space (halo implants). Dunno about gallente and Caldari though, you'd have to check what drops there and check it's market price.

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#20 - 2015-08-07 22:22:54 UTC
I hear shooting freighters in high sec can net you some pretty fine loot.

Best of all, you can scan them, unlike NPC ships. No more relying on RNG for your drops. Well, there is the coin toss for whether it actually drops. But I think the odds are better than shooting rats for a month before you get some decent item.

Mr Epeen Cool
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