EVE General Discussion

Here we have a game that the playerbase loves so much, and is so entrenched, that they would rather try to strongarm the company that creates the game than quit the game.

You can't buy that kind of loyalty to a product and CCP is blind to it, or even worse, is trying to take advantage of it to get through a transitional period.

The Mittani has been front and centre in the in-game drama scene now for several years, and has successfully used that leverage to aquire a position where he can take it out of the game and put it right in CCP's face. He is seriously up in their grill at the moment.

I hope it all works out. I'd hate to think that sombody's moment of internet fame would destroy something so many people love so much, but I too must agree that CCP needs to get their crap together and stop biting off more than they can chew.

He's a goon. He is getting attention. I have no respect for him, or any goon for that matter.

I do agree with what he has said though and am enjoying the space drama.

Okay, these forums need some more work. This is the second time I've created a nicely fleshed out post only to have it eaten, and realized only then that I forgot to copy it before clicking post.

I don't have the heart to type it out again. Suffice to say that I respectfully disagree that the development time has been wasted, and that I don't believe it is nearly as time/resource intensive to optimize a game engine as it is to develop it from scratch.

Yes, Incarna could stand some serious optimization. Not that high frame rates are necessary for non-combat activites, but to facilitate running multiple clients.

I understand the dissappointment people feel when the look at the content that they can interact with in Incarna currently. It's the same dissappointment I felt when EVE went gold. I simply kept playing because I had a good idea of what it would become shortly thereafter... and I was correct.

I also try to keep in mind that, as we have seen, there is a huge portion of the EVE community that has zero interest in combat to begin with. I'm not part of it, but yes they do exist. These people would be happy as clams to use Incarna to socialize, have meetings, buy/sell contraband, create/sell avatar related items, earn income from avatar based establishments, play EVE themed mini-games in those establishments, interact/build/sell to DUST players via Incarna, or any number of other non-combat activities.

More power to them.

I also disagree that Incarna is simply a vehicle to sell things to us via the NeX. Incarna was hardly needed for that. If that was it's only point they could just as easily had the NeX selling custom hulls, paint jobs, special wingy bits for our ships or any number of other things without the need to develop Incarna.

No, calling for Incarna to be trashed is pointless for practical reasons and detrimental in the long run. What needs to happen is for the development resources to be split between new FIS content, iteration on existing content, bug fixes, and Incarna optimization and content in an equitable manner.

I believe the steps taken by the CSM are helping to pushing that realization home

Think of the black hole Jita 4-4 will be O.o

better yet, if you look at the stuff in the last patch: CQ bug fixes etc (shitload of stealth added NeX store items - thats why it was 100 MB)
If you have ANY doubts where theyre focussed.

I love the ppl that say theyre not pulling ppl off EVE to put out WISBS.
Really... why is it then that the main things getting bug fixes is WISBS?
There are plenty of bugs out there in EVE (I refuse to call it FiS anymore) for them to fix.

As Ive seen or said somewhere else: You have failed to make an environment EVEN STO could make

sorry Alice, youve decided to not CHOOSE to see the truth, so nothing for you but to block so I cant see your ignorance.

last bit to her though, you DO know theyre removing the button to turn off the CQ right?



lol this is the first time ive ever seen someone say this. Where are they?

"100 per cent of us die, and the percentage cannot be increased."

--The Weight of Glory, C.S. Lewis

I am still waiting to see the floating corpse of this game to pass by in the street, as I sit in the threshold of my home. Despite being labeled a troll by many , all I'm seeing is the incredibly obvious after effect of what a lot of us saw coming.

Cry, despair, negate and obfuscate, the sheer weight of existence and reality is slowly, but surely, crushing the stupidity of an act that was the latest drive of a blind man leading the one eyed throng. Not even Diogenes itself could give light to the sheer monstrosity that now resides in CCP's halls, and that my friends is morbidly satisfying ...

If there is still a soul in the almost depleted Guf of CCP's halls, I bet it's slowly being lobotomized and forced to wear a silly virtual outfit with matching head set.

Ahhh, so good to see the chronicle of a death foretold in the virtual flesh, I can almost shed a tear of pure wicked glee at the entrails of the pixelated carcass.

Yet, as I hope sometimes to see the Walls of Ansina reborn again, I still have a minute shred of latent and forlorn hope, that somehow this forced and slow vivisection will be stopped and its wounds healed, but I'm still enjoying the agonizing ride, if that never comes to pass.

So much Chaos , I bask gloriously in it.

For there is nothing greater than seeing the fiddle players blaming others for the fire and see them being still blamed for it, despite all their efforts.

I would love to see some T3 mining barges.

It's called Goonaphobia. Personally I think what they choose to do with each other in their CQs is their own business and they should not be discriminated against for their 'choice of lifestyle'.

All of which are in various stages of planning or development.

Richard did bring up the valid point that if people were interested in Incarna content of this type, where are they?

Richard, since that content is not yet in game, and most people have no idea what is planned, it's not surprising we don't hear much in the way of praise for it yet. All we have to look at currently is the tail of the elephant.

Why do you hate goons? How much do you really know about them? I used to hate them too, I had been feed lies about them being terrible and breaking the game etc etc. But when I really opened my eyes, when I opened my mind and actually tried to learn objectively about goons, I realized they aren't half as bad as people might say.

Do you realize you are espousing a social prejudice with little basis or root in facts? Stop being a blind bigot.