Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'll ask you the same question the last guy couldn't answer.

Show me a free ship that can, in a gang of twenty, kill a freighter.

It's all rather funny to read tbh.

Who says it would have to be a nerf? I didn't mention where the breakeven point would be for the sec status difference because that isn't my call to make. It could be that the -15 sec status difference could see the same response time as we do currently, or it could be set at -10. Either way, it would give sec status a better role in the game because the ganker could make the choice of purchasing tags/grinding red chevrons to increase his profit margins, or he could forget all that purchasing/grinding and just bring another friend along for the ride.

In the current state of affairs, saying this from the perspective of someone who used to gank in HS everyday, it is sort of hilariously one dimensional and a little loopy. With the gradual erosion of every other type of HS aggression or content generation mechanic, it's basically all suicide ganking now. You cannot really blame the gankers either as HS is where all the big easy kills are - the rest of the game is a relative content desert. I'd try to make the rest of the game more worth while to live in and the content wouldn't be so HS centred, and you'd have addressed the problem a different way, instead of another nerf, which aside from being philosophically wrong, would just result in an overexploitation of whatever is left.

There's lots of solutions which could make HS antagonism much more dynamic and fun. It's really unappealing at the moment to be on the 'good' side because the gankers have every last advantage possible. Anchorable bubbles that only affect pilots with -5 or less would actually make fights for gates or station undocks interesting, provided they prevented facpo from spawning on grid, so gankers actually had some skin in the game rather than just being able to instant undock to safety, and onward to the target. Imagine pirates actually fighting for their free kills. Privateer bubbles, say, purchasable from LP stores.

Or eliminating the ability to dock on HS stations, such that they have to get back to LS to reship, then fight people at the entry systems, once again, assuming facpo is somehow disabled. Basically facpo prevents 90% of the interesting mechanics that could make HS antagonism a game instead of just using a high powered rife on a large docile animal reserve.

Ganking received a couple very, very minor buffs in the destroyer rebalance and hybrid turrets rebalance years ago, but for all intents and purposes, they are negligible, as most of it was capacitor related and caty's aren't alive long enough to use all their cap.


Orca is just super bitter about gankers.

THIS! I like

this whining about highsec being perfectly safe - whoever introduced you to EVE did it wrong, EVE is a cold, harsh, unforgiving B***h of a mistress, who doesn't care about your whining or your 'right to be perfectly safe and make stupid isk whilst doing so'

if you want to be perfectly safe, sit in an NPC station, market trade, make lots of isk, if you actually want to taste the EVE universe, don't ask to water it down.

Also, reported for redundancy

Just one more nerf, amirite?

Even funnier since I predicted ganking would get worse, not better, long ago when ccp took away insurance.

You saw some no skill did you even bother to try gank attempts in the good old days. Getting insurance, they just didn't care as much. Basically they half assed this crap more often than not. More they half assed it, better your chances to live the gank.

Removed insurance, they started to care a lot more Sort of like low sec'ers. They know at some point gate guns will take them down. When engaging on gates they make sure that target dies to not have those gate gun losses be a waste.

empire gankers just did the same thing after insurance taken away. They really want target to pop now. We imo were probably better off with the idiots relying on insurance to compensate for their stupidity really. It kept them playing stupidly lol.

Nah, not really.....because seriously, especially with the way organized ganking occurs now.....what would an exorborirant fee look like anyway when some freighters drop billions worth in loot?

I much highly doubt CCP would make a docking fee be a billion ISK let a portion of that....just mentioned in case a carebear was reading, but now you ruined the fun

After two years in EVE, I find null to be more secure and safe than high-sec

The major issue I see for high-sec ganking vs null sec is that when is it okay to shoot someone who has been bad.
Null = fire at will
High = you have the crime watch, but even after two years I am not really sure besides the "red" blinks which is okay to sure.

(Could just be a overview setting I am missing)

But all in all EVE is a PVP game before anything else
What probably needs to happen is more information/default settings, that help players who are "law-abiding" citizens to know they can pod that fracker. Locking out gates and stations would be a nice added pick for the bears- but what are the Bears willing to give up for it?