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Obil Que
Star Explorers
Solis Tenebris
#21 - 2015-07-28 15:35:50 UTC
Is this thing stickied here yet?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17cNu8hxqJKqkkPnhDlIuJY-IT6ps7kTNCd3BEz0Bvqs/pubhtml#

This spreadsheet was posted before and details quite well the DPS and tank needed for all the anoms in w-space. Do your EFT math and figure it out.
Aladar Dangerface
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2015-07-28 15:43:02 UTC
A rattlesnake will blitz C3s, your probably gona make more isk solo that way than in a c4 (unless you go for a marauder).

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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#23 - 2015-07-28 16:17:03 UTC
So in that video, the last wave has 338/0.4 - 845 - ehp remoterep... sounds about right.
MooMooDachshundCow
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2015-07-28 16:34:41 UTC
Gonnviear wrote:
Rattlesnake will do?


Here comes the airplane!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4XXvGsnrok

Wow, and all I had to do was google "C4 solo rattlesnake". /s

Yeah, well, it's just like my opinion, man.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2015-07-28 17:31:16 UTC
make more isk doing c3s

C4s are meant to be done in groups.

Art of Explosions
Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#26 - 2015-07-29 04:35:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniela Doran
Mixery82 wrote:
Frontier Barracks takes 13-15 min in a Solo Paladin.

The performance from passive tanking ships are terrible.



How can this be? A passive Rattler can do 400 missile dps and 430 drone dps. Whereas a Paladin has to fit for cap stability to endure the neuting pressure so it's dps drops to 750 Tachyon dps and 90 hammerhead II dps.

So how can a Paladin solo C4s and a Rattlesnake cannot when both have roughly the same dps?
Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#27 - 2015-07-29 04:37:00 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
make more isk doing c3s

C4s are meant to be done in groups.


I hear C3 sit spawn rates are much slower than C4s AND are a lot more....active.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#28 - 2015-07-29 04:42:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
Do people like, not know this site exists???
http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=WormholeSpaceClass4

It has all the DPS numbers on it for each site so assuming you passed grade 3 maths and know that EFT exists, you should be able to figure it out...

PS: If you're worried about the neuting, you can look that up too.
http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/inventory.php?category_id=11

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Mixery82
Friends Of Harassment
#29 - 2015-07-29 06:10:21 UTC
Daniela Doran wrote:
Mixery82 wrote:
Frontier Barracks takes 13-15 min in a Solo Paladin.

The performance from passive tanking ships are terrible.



How can this be? A passive Rattler can do 400 missile dps and 430 drone dps. Whereas a Paladin has to fit for cap stability to endure the neuting pressure so it's dps drops to 750 Tachyon dps and 90 hammerhead II dps.

So how can a Paladin solo C4s and a Rattlesnake cannot when both have roughly the same dps?


A well fitted C4 Pala do a way more than 750 DPS.
My Pala dose on:
Multi 1082 DPS 70+47 km
Gamma 992 DPS 87+47 km
Xray 902 DPS 104+47 km
HoruSeth
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2015-07-29 08:54:13 UTC
MooMooDachshundCow wrote:
Gonnviear wrote:
Rattlesnake will do?


Here comes the airplane!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4XXvGsnrok

Wow, and all I had to do was google "C4 solo rattlesnake". /s


This Video was taken in a Pulsar Wormhole: http://www.staticmapper.com/index.php?system=J121006

So the Rattlesnake Pilot could fit for much more gank. In every other C4 Wormhole you need more tank, when you would need more gank to break the initial remote rep. That's the problem. Yes Rattlesnakes will still finish C4s, but unless you are in a Pulsar, it will be much slower / harder than we could see in that video. ;)

On my gravestone will be written: "Died because he used sarcasm in the wrong moment"
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#31 - 2015-07-29 12:51:21 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Do people like, not know this site exists???
http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=WormholeSpaceClass4

It has all the DPS numbers on it for each site so assuming you passed grade 3 maths and know that EFT exists, you should be able to figure it out...

PS: If you're worried about the neuting, you can look that up too.
http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/inventory.php?category_id=11

No I want it spoonfed to me. Thinking on my own is HARD

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#32 - 2015-07-29 13:16:52 UTC
Mixery82 wrote:
Daniela Doran wrote:
Mixery82 wrote:
Frontier Barracks takes 13-15 min in a Solo Paladin.

The performance from passive tanking ships are terrible.



How can this be? A passive Rattler can do 400 missile dps and 430 drone dps. Whereas a Paladin has to fit for cap stability to endure the neuting pressure so it's dps drops to 750 Tachyon dps and 90 hammerhead II dps.

So how can a Paladin solo C4s and a Rattlesnake cannot when both have roughly the same dps?


A well fitted C4 Pala do a way more than 750 DPS.
My Pala dose on:
Multi 1082 DPS 70+47 km
Gamma 992 DPS 87+47 km
Xray 902 DPS 104+47 km


Umm, can you send me your fit in game via mail please?
HoruSeth
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2015-07-29 14:03:23 UTC  |  Edited by: HoruSeth
Daniela Doran wrote:
Mixery82 wrote:
Daniela Doran wrote:
Mixery82 wrote:
Frontier Barracks takes 13-15 min in a Solo Paladin.

The performance from passive tanking ships are terrible.



How can this be? A passive Rattler can do 400 missile dps and 430 drone dps. Whereas a Paladin has to fit for cap stability to endure the neuting pressure so it's dps drops to 750 Tachyon dps and 90 hammerhead II dps.

So how can a Paladin solo C4s and a Rattlesnake cannot when both have roughly the same dps?


A well fitted C4 Pala do a way more than 750 DPS.
My Pala dose on:
Multi 1082 DPS 70+47 km
Gamma 992 DPS 87+47 km
Xray 902 DPS 104+47 km


Umm, can you send me your fit in game via mail please?


Tachyon Beams
Faction Heat Sinks
Locus II Rig
+5-6% implants

Where is the problem?

On my gravestone will be written: "Died because he used sarcasm in the wrong moment"
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#34 - 2015-07-29 14:09:32 UTC
HoruSeth wrote:
Daniela Doran wrote:
Mixery82 wrote:
Daniela Doran wrote:
Mixery82 wrote:
Frontier Barracks takes 13-15 min in a Solo Paladin.

The performance from passive tanking ships are terrible.



How can this be? A passive Rattler can do 400 missile dps and 430 drone dps. Whereas a Paladin has to fit for cap stability to endure the neuting pressure so it's dps drops to 750 Tachyon dps and 90 hammerhead II dps.

So how can a Paladin solo C4s and a Rattlesnake cannot when both have roughly the same dps?


A well fitted C4 Pala do a way more than 750 DPS.
My Pala dose on:
Multi 1082 DPS 70+47 km
Gamma 992 DPS 87+47 km
Xray 902 DPS 104+47 km


Umm, can you send me your fit in game via mail please?


Tachyon Beams
Faction Heat Sinks
Locus II Rig
+5-6% implants

Where is the problem?

the problem is that he doesn't want to think obvi

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
Mixery82
Friends Of Harassment
#35 - 2015-07-29 15:50:47 UTC
Andrew Jester wrote:

the problem is that he doesn't want to think obvi


[Paladin, WH C4]
Corpus A-Type Large Armor Repairer
Dark Blood Heat Sink
Dark Blood Heat Sink
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane

Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Xray L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Xray L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Xray L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Xray L
Bastion Module I
Dark Blood Large EMP Smartbomb
Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I
Dark Blood Heavy Nosferatu

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Energy Burst Aerator II

Imps:

Inherent Implants 'Noble' Repair Systems RS-603
Inherent Implants 'Lancer' Controlled Bursts CB-703
Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-803
Inherent Implants 'Lancer' Gunnery RF-903
Inherent Implants 'Lancer' Large Energy Turret LE-1003

The Fitting is no big secret but it is right without thinking the best fit will not save your live.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#36 - 2015-07-29 22:30:23 UTC
Why in the seven hells are you putting tachs on a paladin?!

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Iyokus Patrouette
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2015-07-29 23:00:55 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Why in the seven hells are you putting tachs on a paladin?!


So he can play Tic Tach Toe. . . . i'll show myself out.

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Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#38 - 2015-07-29 23:19:46 UTC
Iyokus Patrouette wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
Why in the seven hells are you putting tachs on a paladin?!


So he can play Tic Tach Toe. . . . i'll show myself out.

UghUghUgh

can't even

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
Daerrol
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2015-07-29 23:29:04 UTC
Paladins can solo C5s when blingy. Shoudl easily do C4 with T2 fit. No tachyons... just no.
MooMooDachshundCow
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2015-07-29 23:42:21 UTC  |  Edited by: MooMooDachshundCow
Daerrol wrote:
Paladins can solo C6s when blingy. Should easily do C4 with T2 fit. No tachyons... just no.


I fixed it for you.

Also, I dunno if you've ever actually ran a C4 site, but they spawn REALLY far out sometimes. If you want good isk/hr you'd be well served to use something that can hit at 120km. Scorch is great, but I'm gonna defer to people who actually have run loads of these as for which fitting is better.

Also, just because you CAN T2 fit, doesn't mean that you SHOULD. Isk/hr is relevant like no other in this context.

Yeah, well, it's just like my opinion, man.