Player Features and Ideas Discussion

It’s the Wild West out there. Everywhere.

So why is it that a person flashing red, criminal, in local, is allowed to even dock? Even flashing Suspect?

They shoot at someone, rob them and then go sit in the Bank across the street until you and the Cops leave out of frustration. The Bank is even going to allow them to leave that stuff there after they leave, that's a minor detail.

Why is it that person, that has negative standings towards a Corporation, even a Negative Security Status, is allowed to dock at those Stations?

They should have to earn the right to be able to Dock up there. Or if they are allowed to dock then they can’t use ANY services there. Contracts, oh well. Repair facilities, to bad. Even risk getting their ship and cargo confiscated or impounded by the Corporation depending on the negative standing. Then have to leave in just a Pod.

If they want to gank that’s fine. But they should have to risk their own Orca’s, Bowheads, POS’s and other Support ships. And then be ready to fight off people with kill rights, Bounty Hunters and the Hired Mercenaries. They should have no Safe Haven and be limited to districts intended for people that are socially and ethically irresponsible.

i agree, but people here will argue "concord is retribution force not a police force", "Mega corps don't answer to concord/faction police", "sec status doesn't matter to mega corps" etc.

I do think that there should be a fee or fine based on your sec status/corp standings in high sec, plus additional fees for suspect/criminal flags. If you can't pay, you can't dock. Oh look another isk sink!

Oh, look. It's this thread again. My counter proposal is for CCP to set everyone who breaks Rule 17, and all alts on their accounts, to -5.1 sec status for posting redundant ****.

Also, reported for redundancy.

Bear in .8/.9, get better response times from concord. There is your meaning to sec status in empire.


recommend a tank on boat to live to see this happen. I'd be looking at rattler here. Empire bears best friend, or high on that list. Its already not high on their preferred hit lists. if they say screw it...it may even live the gank Go passive tank to include resists amps. Its as close to neut resistant you will get damn near. Good enough for level 5's at any rate.


Or me I like hard to probe tengu as well. Used to be my un-probable fit.

look at how wrong you are. It's adorable!

It's supposed to be.

Cry more about how you might possibly have to defend yourself in a PvP game.

We need at least one restriction to start with.

If they only pilot free ships, they are loss immune. Even if you shoot them, it's just a free ship and a free pod. They get into another and move on, nothing happened. You can shoot thousand of them, and do no damage.

This won't go with just one "nerf" naturally, needs a lot more than one. Removing free ships from the equation, removing the stupid ease of it, giving some real consequence for being a criminal - look, at least three.

Ganking has took buff after buff for the last years. Time to put it into a row.

And as soon as your back in system for retribution. They run to the nearest station, dock up and wait until you leave local or just log off. Even with 3 guys its near impossible to get them. They just warp to their insta-dock.

Then what else? Waste my money placing a bounty on them? Or give away my kill rights, that I really want to use? So they can have a podding party with their alts after DT?

Personally I would like to see the concord response time be more liquid and have it be based on not only the sec status of the system, but also the relative sec status of the ganker vs gankee. This in itself would truly bring a purpose to sec status for both the ganker and the gankee.

I'm sure the international carebear union would agree to this, but only in the case of a -10 ganking a +5. The slower response time in the case of a -1 ganking a +1 would be intolerable and they'll either talk about going on strike or talk about how ganking is comparable to [insert assorted, genuinely horrific RL acts here]. Either way, they'll post on the forum so your idea is bad. :)