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What Edge does this game have over others now?

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Gunn Yage
Perkone
Caldari State
#21 - 2015-07-26 19:23:15 UTC
Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:
If you have to ask the question, you most likely won't understand the answer.

And honestly, you don't even sound like you want one. Low quality b8, m8.



I actually do what a answer...Some guy scammed one guy and made him whine over viop..... Sounds like the same Eve I took a break from 2 years ago..What changed?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#22 - 2015-07-26 19:26:22 UTC
Gunn Yage wrote:
So if a future player comes to the game thinking they cant be banned and they can do what ever they wish.. Thats a compiling reason to play. Its probably what drew us all to it to begin with- be honest.

Not really, no. The only people who what an uncontrolled game and the cesspool it creates are the kind of people who categorically cannot function in an MMO, and which therefore are not a sensible group of customers to try to cater to.

If a future player comes to the game thinking they can't get banned, it's imperative that they understand immediately that their assumption is 100% incorrect. If they find abuse compelling, they need to seek help, not inflict it on others.

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Sounds like the same Eve I took a break from 2 years ago..What changed?
Nothing.
Gunn Yage
Perkone
Caldari State
#23 - 2015-07-26 19:27:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Gunn Yage
ShahFluffers wrote:
Gunn Yage wrote:
stumbled on a thread on another site about something that happened this year appaently, inwhich CCP broke it imo once again its trust is has towards its players,

Linky to this?

Admittedly, CCP has been making some changes that are not popular for certain groups of people but are more or less good for the game overall.
Take all criticism with a grain of salt. Sometimes it is just angst-filled hyperbole.


Gunn Yage wrote:
My question is with all the new space games coming out with which 2 are a big threat, one already being out. What edge does CCP have?

- Single shard, persistent Universe (I know of no other game that does this).
- Everyone affects everyone else for better and worse (harvesters affect builders, builders affect PvPers, PvPers affect harvesters and builders, etc).
- The game is designed such that no one is truly "safe" or "immune" from unwanted player interaction.
- Being in the game longer, having more stuff, more abilities, more/greater skills etc. does not give a clear or reliable advantage (ex. 10 rookies CAN potentially stomp/harass/interfere with a 10 year old veteran if they have a clear plan).
- You can do things in this game that would get you banned in other games (ex. "suicide bombing," betraying your allies, stealing from your allies, selling intel to enemies, bribing in official tournaments, etc).


Gunn Yage wrote:
Or did tell this year when it banned a player for taking the dark-side of eve to the extreme.. But by doing so it leaves a question and thus a doubt.

That was last year if I remember correctly (the "Erotica1 incident"). And it did not set a precedent. It was merely a VERY extreme outlier of things that already occur in EVE that happened to get a lot of publicity.

NOTE: Even people who routinely do similar things largely agreed that the perpetrator took it "too far."

Gunn Yage wrote:
That person was the best at what they did. but who was 2nd best, and do they now have to worry about being banned as now their the best?
... (snip)...
Do players have to worry about getting banned from the game that capitalizes on that one aspect of "uniqueness" over the other games out there, for which this subject is based on.

Not if they use their "best judgement."

CCP often states that they take such things on a "case-by-case" basis. The "clear line" is still not "clear" and probably never will be as all interaction between any two people is never "clear cut."
Some people are more sensitive.
Some people are very hardened.
Everyone has a different range of things that will set them off.
And because of those things you can never scrub interpersonal interactions down to the point where no one is offended. Someone always will be.

That said, this truism comes to mind: "I don't know where the 'line' is, but when we cross it I'll know."

you listed 5 things... Two have alot to do with the topic..They are both false if you make to big a ripple..thus false all together. Like it or not its not longer true. So don't list them plz, as its no longer true..1 time or 2k times, 1 is enough.

"Not if they use their "best judgement."" So players do have to worry which again..plz don't list tose 2 above things again..As its simply not true. Anymore...

But nice reply....Some ppl have brains and don't blindly respond like robotic fanboys.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#24 - 2015-07-26 19:30:35 UTC
Gunn Yage wrote:
you listed 5 things... Two have alot to do with the topic..They are both false if you make to big a ripple..thus false all together. Like it or not its not longer true.
Which were those?

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Some ppl have brains and don't blindly respond like robotic fanboys.
You're not one of those people. How about you offer some actual argumentation rather than the mechanical repetition of saying nothing at all that you've tried so far?
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#25 - 2015-07-26 19:30:59 UTC

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#26 - 2015-07-26 19:34:28 UTC
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