EVE General Discussion

Unlike Star Citizen, which you were trying to dance around naming, EVE Online actually exists, instead of being a consumer confidence scam thinly disguised as vaporware.

And Elite Dangerous, while a rather nice flight sim style game, is seriously lacking in worldbuilding and interactivity. Also, last time I checked, which admittedly was a while ago, they were having huge problems controlling hackers.

Haven't there been a lot of games that were "going to kill EvE"? Yet, here EvE is... As I see it, what EvE has that other games don't - cannot, at least for a long time - is 12 years of players creating a rich, in-depth history with and within the game. Also...even if EvE was shut down tomorrow, what a great ride!

Wow your really distasteful. However I will answer your question with another. Star citizen & Elite dangerous Do they have sovereignty, Incursions, variety when it comes to ships and counters? Star citizen isn't even out and there devs said they have might plan in the future for content to be released which eve is already out putting. So the real question is what do these threat level games like star citizen and elite dangerous have that eve doesn't?

You have to fail pretty damn hard to make CODE sound more sane and reasonable than you, but congratulations! You did it.

Do me a favor and compare EVE when it came out! To games just now coming out....Nothing but blind fanboy replys so far. AAANNNNDD.. the person who said SD and EVE use difffernt systems your right..But what about DE? iIts grids are just smaller then eve onlines, due to it not haing the hardware yet...And it doesnt have the Hardware yet CCP does..But when eve first came out in 2003..Its system would be comparable..So again fanboys..ya have to let the new games Mature..Stop being fanboys and actually think before you post plz.

Why? That doesn't seem like a particularly sensible comparison to make.

No. EVE does not use instances. Instancing is something completely different from grid separation.

Doesnt matter who the person was, nor asking for him to be un-banned.Don't know him ,nor care..Its the fact they did it..Its the one thing this game has capitalized on not doing ever..yet is has...Who's next??..Again..with that said..What gives this game a edge anymore?
The fact you can do what every you want in a persistent wourld isn't true if you make to big of ripples.

So if a future player comes to the game thinking they cant be banned and they can do what ever they wish.. Thats a compiling reason to play. Its probably what drew us all to it to begin with- be honest.. Now if that 1 day old player also finds out that isn't the case anymore...Then what? Why play a 12 year old game vs a new one?

Nope try again somewhere else.

The point that even major game review sites questioned if he actually broke the TOS makes me wonder if you have any clue?
Is no differnt then someone joining your TS server to rage at you..It doens't .. Viop is a manditory aspect of any mmo if you wish to be very good at team op's....CCP knows it.... Don't matter if it was on TS or in a chat room with out vioce..he didnt break the TOS...HE just made a big ripple.. What i hey used Eve Voice instead of TS,vent or what ever they used?

All it was , was a single ripple..Again..he's banned so what ..but who's next? Was the point.

Linky to this?

Admittedly, CCP has been making some changes that are not popular for certain groups of people but are more or less good for the game overall.
Take all criticism with a grain of salt. Sometimes it is just angst-filled hyperbole.



- Single shard, persistent Universe (I know of no other game that does this).
- Everyone affects everyone else for better and worse (harvesters affect builders, builders affect PvPers, PvPers affect harvesters and builders, etc).
- The game is designed such that no one is truly "safe" or "immune" from unwanted player interaction.
- Being in the game longer, having more stuff, more abilities, more/greater skills etc. does not give a clear or reliable advantage (ex. 10 rookies CAN potentially stomp/harass/interfere with a 10 year old veteran if they have a clear plan).
- You can do things in this game that would get you banned in other games (ex. "suicide bombing," betraying your allies, stealing from your allies, selling intel to enemies, bribing in official tournaments, etc).



That was last year if I remember correctly (the "Erotica1 incident"). And it did not set a precedent. It was merely a VERY extreme outlier of things that already occur in EVE that happened to get a lot of publicity.

NOTE: Even people who routinely do similar things largely agreed that the perpetrator took it "too far."


Not if they use their "best judgement."

CCP often states that they take such things on a "case-by-case" basis. The "clear line" is still not "clear" and probably never will be as all interaction between any two people is never "clear cut."
Some people are more sensitive.
Some people are very hardened.
Everyone has a different range of things that will set them off.
And because of those things you can never scrub interpersonal interactions down to the point where no one is offended. Someone always will be.

That said, this truism comes to mind: "I don't know where the 'line' is, but when we cross it I'll know."